1.536Mhz PCM/DSD 1024 do we need it?

Welcome to the Roon community, @Audiophile_James.

Your post probably belongs Feature Suggestions. However, since you are new here you’ll need to improve your trust level–how the forum works–first.

So, maybe explain why Roon may benefit from this suggestion when there are no commercially available recordings in these formats, and it is possible to upsample already.


Please don’t post the same topic multiple times–new users’ posts are held for moderation before being published.

You may like to review the community guidelines.

Can you give examples of such DACs? Also, what bit depth do you have in mind?

I have software that can make 64-bit 12,288 kHz files. In fact, I can make files with virtually any sampling rate. Where should we draw the line? What is the criteria?

Rather than going over old ground, I’m going to merge this with this existing discussion.

@Audiophile_James, you may want to search Feature Suggestions and add your vote to a suitable request.

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Whether to listen to dsd1024 or not is the user’s idea, not the decision of roon.
Many cheap and even free software are supported. Why roon can not support it?

Simply because Roon supports Linux, macOS and Windows, and numerous DACs. DSD512 is available to all OS, but DSD1024 is not.

The user always has a choice. For example, use Roon, use Roon with HQP, or use other software.

What do you use?

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This thread is a masterclass in why normal music lovers run screaming from “audiophile” culture.
Nothing says “fun hobby” like obsessing over marginally gentler low-pass filters and pushing noise into the ultrasonic. The supposed gains here are subtle, if they’re audible at all.

Don’t sweat the minutia. Focus on better mastering.

But sure provide 1.536mhz playback… for the 1% of the 1%'ers

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Always. And, the occasional MoFi, Japanese import, original release etc. is still the most cost effective solution.

I guess that’s why I describe myself as a music lover, and would be offended if someone called me an audiophile.

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This!!!

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100%, This is exactly how I feel.

Dating from 1959, but still relevant today…

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I haven’t met an audiophile yet who doesn’t love music. It s the one thing everyone here shares.

I have met a few who give the very real impression that they listen to their equipment first and “audiophile music” second.

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I’m not sure who is worse though. The people who do that or the people who judge them! :wink:

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I’m an observer, I don’t judge…….glass houses etc!

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A definition of an audiophile is someone who is interested in producing high-fidelity sound and the technology of reproduction equipment.

Moreover, search the audiophile forums and websites for music, and it’s usually accompanied with songs to test your high-end system or speakers etc.

And, looking at Roon’s list of the most played tracks from the last decade, it appears to mirror these lists.

This is why I don’t associate with audiophile culture. In contrast, I’ve spent the last ten years discovering new music and genres and don’t wear my modest setup as a badge of honour.

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That’s a tough one for me. I don’t participate, but I’d like to think I can at least associate regarding the things all Roon users have in common.

Like just about everything that appears polarized, there are many shades in between. I tend to associate the term audiophile with pointless competition (avoiding the vulgar term.)

But I’d agree with you that music is a common thread for many of us who enjoy this hobby, who either buy equipment, build their own, or simply like Tinkering. For common ground, there is no place for disrespect but plenty of room for humility.

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Personally I think there are enough dacs now that support these higher bit rates and core cpus that are able to upsample too such rates too that it’s about time Roon stepped up to support them.

But knowing that DSD1024 brings zero audible advantage over less why would you like to have it, thus why would you like to have any device supporting it?
DSD1024 (and likely also less) is a typical mental demand for more and more and more, without any factual base except the mental demand.
On the opposite side, purely mental demands are (sometimes) satisfied by products without any factual base. And people primarily want to satisfy their mental demands by nature.
And that’s how well executed marketing and product management come together creating products without any real use except satisfying mental demand.
So, roon could remain on the rather rational side and keep focusing on other things than DSD1024 or they someday implement DSD1024 knowing it would be solely for mental satisfaction of a niche niche niche customer group, not offering any rational audible benefit at all :man_shrugging:t3:

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I have a few albums purchased from Qobuz as DSD64. I can’t tell the difference between them and the 24/192 FLAC version of the same album.

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