Advice wanted DAC and Amplifiers:

I’m about to move to a new house where audio and home theatre will be separated. So I need an audio system for music only. I’m almost certain I will go with Tekton Double Impact speakers (http://www.tektondesign.com/double-impact.html). I’m looking for input on DAC and amplifier recommendations and any other advice before committing.

Music will come form Roon of course and I’ll probably change to core machine or run (docker? jail) on the Freenas system.

Any thoughts most welcome.

Cheers

I’d put some guidelines in there to get anything meaningful.
Budget for starters :slight_smile:
Ged

Also, do you want a standalone DAC with separate transport, MQA etc. Also, your music taste may be useful.

Since auditioning is essential, are there any restrictions getting access to certain brands etc.?

The chosen speakers are a start since they offer 98 dB efficency so they are also tube amplifier friendly :slight_smile:

As for the speaker design, i personally do not consider them really very STEREO friendly look at the design in the high frequency area. It will not be easy to find a nice stereo hot spot with them (just my personal opinion).

The vertical and horizontal dispersion seem more Home Cinema to me. https://www.soundandvision.com/content/dispersion-show-and-tell

Since the speakers are the most crucial part in interaction with YOUR room, i would first start there and then think about the electronics to add.

best regards,

Armin

I deliberately DIDN’T include budget! I’m interested in a spectrum of options to consider. I don’t believe that only top dollar equipment is necessary!

Cheers

@Armin_Moesslacher. That’s what I did :slight_smile:

Cheers


Browse through this, as good as any advice you get with no parameters.

I sense an implied budget against the cost of the speakers. I’d go with the Mytek Brooklyn+ Preamp/DAC with MCA and a well reviewed amp like the Odyssey Audio Khartago

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OK, then take whatever you like is my opinion :slight_smile:
I personally cannot hear differences in DACs so my advice would be take the most convenient DAC for your needs (inputs/outputs you need). Personally i had an MDAC+, a TEAC UD501 and an Antimode 2.0 as DAC/Roomcorrection System, all in reasonable price range and recommend all of them.

Tube amps of course produce a different to transistor “sound”. I had both and liked both, but since tubes need more service affection i went back to transistor amp.

With 98dB efficency speakers amps from same Watt (tube) to almost any Transistor amp will do :slight_smile:

best regards and cheers from Vienna,

Armin

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If you have the time and inclination my recommendation is to reproduce the equipment chain that was used by your preferred speaker manufacturer to refine the design of their speakers. So worth finding out a bit about this from your preferred speaker manufacturer. I did this with my Amphion Argon 3S paired up to a pair of Amphion Mono 100 Class D amps (the amp designer - Anaview - used the Amphion speakers to refine the amp design so a lot of synergy there) and hooked up to the Mytek Brooklyn DAC which is what Amphion use in their R&D lab. Hooked the lot up with pro cables (pricey ‘audiophile’ cables not necessary): balanced output to the amps and speakon connections from the amps to speakers. I have a custom NUC running ROCK connected into the USB on the Brooklyn. Couldn’t be happier. Cost was £3.5k.

Not an ‘off the shelf’ solution but this approach does take the system matching lottery out of the equation.

Hope this helps.

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Thanks, folks. I have checked out your recommendations and you are doing exactly what I wanted, making me think :slight_smile:

I have what may seem like an obvious question: None of the DACs appear to have an internet connection, so what do you do to convert them into a Roon endpoint?

Cheers

Use a streamer? Roon endpoint.

I don’t convert my DAC into a Roon endpoint. My Inte NUC ROCK server is directly connected to my DAC via USB and to the internet via my ethernet network.

You can roll your own raspberry pi network to usb endpoint very affordably just to have a play with the difference. Several easy to deploy os’s like ropieee.org and dietpi.comcan be used to do this. They do have simple DAC options too that can be added some with amps on board.

See the raspberry pi areas in the community here

I uses an Auralic Aries LE Streaming Bridge as roon endpoint (has only dig. outputs), then i go into the Antimode 2.0 for room correction then analog out to the Amplifier. I could also go into the AVR and let is do the DA conversion.

best regards,

Armin

I use a bunch of Rpis for ancillary rooms now (dietpi and IQAudio HATs), but hadn’t thought of them as a feed into high-quality audio. I guess this would be a good test of @Armin’s assertion about the similarity of DACs!

I do need to have some sort of endpoint as the NAS will be at the other end of the house and I’ll not be able to run a USB cable directly.

Cheers

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I dont think the DAC matters at all given your choice of speaker - hardly the last word in speakers. A tube amplifier might be the way to go with as much warmth and coloration as possible.

How familiar are you with the Tektons? Make sure you are at least 40-50 hours familiar with a pair of well-used (read: broken in) speakers before you spend $3k. Do a home audition if at all possible. And by the way, no $3k pair is so good people will trade in $30k speakers like the ad says.

@Egbert_Braam The only way IS a home audition. That’s what is next.

Thanks

@Rhythmatist But I do expect them to be a big step up from my Bluetooth speakers :slight_smile: