Album of Frank Sinatra incorrectly linked to Pyotr il'yich Tchaikovky

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HI,
Core Roon server i3 (10 gen) nuc , SSD 500 GB, 32 GB memory, Windows 10 Pro system
Network Details

Ethernet cabled system: Server, Client and Audio system : Cambridge CXN V2
Library Size

701 Artist, 1697 Albums, 24.960 tracks 133 composors.
Description of Issue*

Frans Sinatra album linked to the composer Pyotr il’yich Tchaikovky.
But all tracks have a different composer than Pyotr il’yich Tchaikovky.
The Album credits do not contain Pyotr il’yich Tchaikovky.
What to investigate/change to solve this?
Two - Where can I find a datamodel used by Roon?

KRF. Edwin Slee

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Can you post the album title? Frank did sing a couple of songs that had Tchaikovsky links.

If not track specific, then I would have expected him to appear in the general album level credits.

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Hi,
Album: Softly as I leave you
KR. Edwin

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He appears as a composer in the album credits.

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As to why he is there, I don’t know.

If he shouldn’t be, then it’s a metadata issue from Roon’s suppliers. If he should be, then it’s up to you as to whether you want him showing or not.

I’ll try and determine whether there is any connection…

… can’t see any. Moving this over to #support:metadata-issues

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Hi,
Time for some quality assurance concerning you meta data supplier.
I see some albums with 240 ! credits containing 10+ composers.
And the tracks of that album have different composers???
Hard to believe that’s correct meta data.
Of course I edited the album and the tracks myself, :frowning:
Are there scheduled battleground
processes? Because the track/focus display is not consistent with the Album display.
KR. Edwin

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On my Qobuz copy, there are a staggering 106 composer credits at an album level. There are only 12 songs so the vast majority of these credits including Tchaikovsky are wrong. I don’t know how widespread a problem it is that there are large numbers of composer credits at an album level that have nothing to do with the compositions at a track level.

As it happens, over the years Sinatra did record Tchaikovsky based tracks but not on the OP’s one I think. Check this out instead.

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I am not sure I even understand why there would be any composer credits at all at an album level. Surely composers are a track level, composition property? There must be something deeper going wrong.

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You’re quite right. I was so intent on looking for Frank I didn’t see the wood for the trees regarding number of composers.

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I do see this now and then. I have a feeling that single albums that have originated in box sets and anthologies can carry over huge numbers of credits that make no sense when they are re-packaged as single albums again.

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Neither do I.
Since when albums have composers?

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Hi @Edwin_Slee

It looks like there are a couple of issues at play here, but we have a ticket in for a fix that we think will help. I don’t have any specific timeframes, but it’s something we are working on resolving in the future. Thanks for the example!

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Hi Dylan,
Small problem and already solved.
It seemed somebody had the Album.credit.composer field of a Sinatra Album filled with
Tchaikovsky I removed it and it is okay now.
KR. Edwin