"Album View" in Now Playing?

Ok, I understand the source of the confusion.

But I think it is pretty clear that what tboooe and I both are referring to is the simple and most obvious scenario. Namely, what lyrics look like when you click on lyrics in the Now Playing window.

For Geoff to say that the feature still exists means that we would have to do all of the following to get the new implementation of lyrics in version 1.6 to work most of the time (because time aligned scrolling lyrics appear to not be available for the majority of songs) –

(1) Click on lyrics in the Now Playing window.

(2) Observe the ugly huge static lyrics in the Now Playing window designed for people with cataracts.

(Or look carefully at the tiny icon of the microphone and look for the even smaller and tiny clock or the lack of the clock on the microphone.)

(3) Now close the Now Playing Window, or click on the que icon, to get the track list.

(4) Now click on the three dots to get a text box of lyrics for static and non-streaming lyrics.

Talk about a convoluted piece of software. Geoff accuses me of spreading fake news, when he is apparently defending this system.

The point is simple. The ugly huge lines of static text in the Now Playing window don’t work – because they force us to manually and laboriously scroll down, one line at a time.

Thankfully, the Chief Technology Officer of Roon immediately understood the problem, and said he would raise it with this team.

A post was split to a new topic: Blank album covers after 1.6 update

I have a similar perspective on letting the Now Playing run w/o interaction and show track info.

I would like to be able to click on the large cover pic and see other pics I have loaded or even have a slide show option without exiting the now playing screen and re-entering. .

I like various artists with unique pictures per track and for complete album collection boxes I would like to see the cover of the album that matches the track vs. the box set front (similar idea to showing your scan of the single)

Configurable graphs are nice, too. Spectrum and wave form.

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I happily agree there was confusion. Allan was saying the lyrics box was gone in 1.6, when it quite clearly was still present to me.

What is the case is that in building the new Now Playing screen, Roon Labs have used the lyrics tech from the Display feature in place of the lyrics box tech. And I agree with Allan that this was a bad choice (using tech designed for 10 foot screens on displays that are going to be rendered on PCs/Macs/Tablets). Brian agrees as well, and the Now Playing screen will be changed in this and in other ways.

@Vectra
You said it better than I could have: Your wish-list for the Now Playing screen exactly matches mine!

Geoff, I’d like to provide additional clarification on the problem and how it might be solved,. In addition there are failures with how the automatic lyrics function. But I thought it would be more useful to respond in the thread on lyrics, as I know how you moderators like to have one thread on one issue. :grin:

So I responded to you here:

In a different thread, there is discussion of whether we can roll back to a prior version of Roon. I strongly disagree with that conclusion, as it is clear that the new version brings many benefits.

Those benefits include improvements in the Now Playing window. The new set of icons to quickly call up artist bios and info on the album that is playing are great. That provides great functionality for some of the most important features of Roon. My own criticism of the UI work was not fair or balanced, as it didn’t give credit where credit is due.

I’d suggest that the new improvements in the Now Viewing window should be retained, but modified in how they are presented, as that can also address the concerns expressed in this thread.

It would be a shame if Roon abandoned those improvements and simply reverted back to the older version of the Now Playing window. That would also be the equivalent of throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

The simple way to address the concerns expressed in this thread is -

(1) for Roon to include another icon in the Now Playing window that would call up a large illustration of the album cover. As is already the case, it should include the option of using either the Roon album cover or what we have already saved in the music folder, depending on which is higher resolution.

(2) On the bottom of the Now Viewing window, start with larger fonts showing the artist, album and track that can be easily and quickly read in a home theater at a distance, or when quickly glancing down at an iPad. Eliminate the thumbnail of the album cover as it just takes up room and is unnecessary.

The row of icons should be directly above the album and artist info. (Not in middle of the window as is currently the case.)

The icon for the album cover should be the first icon, and the Now Playing view should default to that first.

Then 2/3 of the page, if not more, is reserved for what is shown by clicking on the icons.

Then the majority of the page is devoted to a large presentation of the album cover OR the artist bio OR the info on the album OR the scolling lyrics OR a box of static lyrics in a smaller font size OR the photo – depending on which icon is clicked on.

(3) That would build upon the great improvements in the Now Playing window in version 1.6 – but make it even better. Using more of the window for the artist bio and info on the album would mean that in some cases, all of the info can be read without even scrolling. (Depending on how detailed the info is.) And we would have to scroll less.

And it would bring back a large album display which is what everyone posting here wants. And it would default to that as the first choice.

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it’s coming, and some other changes that should help with your #2 and #3 suggestions.

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Danny, just so there is no misunderstanding. The long bios and long album info are not a problem. Quite the opposite, they are the strength of Roon. When I’m demonstrating how Roon works to my guests, I routinely call up the artist bio of Duke Ellington to illustrate the long, detailed and in-depth information you present.

But some of the bios and album info are shorter, so to the extent the most of the Now Playing window can be reserved to show the album cover or the bio/album info, it would mean less scrolling, and in some cases, no scrolling at all.

Scrolling through detailed bios is not a problem though. I recall that Tidal abandoned the detailed bios and shifted to short condensed info they bought off of Tivo. That was a major step backwards for Tidal.

So don’t ever abandon, and don’t condense the great artist and album info that you now utilize! It is your strength!

Roon 1.6 was playing while I had other apps open on my PC. This was the view when Roon was in the background behind other apps. Why not keep it simple as a default view? If I want to see the other stuff, that’s fine but the default view does not need to bombard me scrolling lyrics or press pics of the artists.

I fully agree, as well. PLEASE BRING BACK LARGE ALBUM ARTWORK DISPLAY!

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FWIW I would like to add my +1 for a configurable Now Playing screen where we can choose what to see, e.g. Album Artwork.

Want is have not seen mentioned in most comments about the Now Playing screen is the excellent composition descriptions. For me it adds more value that a larger album picture, perhaps specially true for classical music

Highly appreciated!

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In some cases we have nothing except album cover, that’s another reason to show large album artwork.

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Hi, just to build on the thread related to the UI, I believe that lyrics used to look much better (more along the lines of an album sleeve) and more premium before (smaller fonts, serif fonts…) than the new 1.6 version that look just like a karaoke version except… they do not follow the music.
I would rather have a small box with lyrics when I look for it than seeing lyrics right in my face.
And, yes, the design of the Now Playing screen can be rearranged by someone less techi and more graphic-savvy.
Artist photos should also vary, some old bands (like Yes) used to look MUCH different in their hey-days than the photo that is showing a bunch of old guys. Not that it matters much but if I listen to a 70’s release, I do not particularly feel like seeing the band in their current state!!
Thanks for the good work. T

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Just to check, all these large cover art requests from home theatre and large screen users I can see are valid, but I just love it as it is sitting here with my laptop on my knees! Maybe the cover art could be a little larger (30-50%?) for sure and a few other items included on the screen as others have requested, such as ‘2 of 12’ track place in queue info, Date of Release (with a toggle in settings for Original or latest or whatever), maybe the Label (when you can link it outside the library into Qobuz proper), plus a heart ‘like’ icon too would also be handy and definitely a link to track credits in the ‘…’ menu - but let’s not over clutter the new design I like it very much just as it is with the artist pic top centre stage and the album cover smaller!

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So apart from all of that lets not clutter it :joy:

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You got it! :rofl:

I vote for clutter. I don’t mind info or options anywhere relevant.

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Agreed with a resounding YES! I’m extremely disappointed with the lack of an option to display large album art, which changes with the track playing, in the new Now Playing screen. So many other options available now except for the one most important to me. I want Album Art as big as possible, not some stock photo of the artist staring at me, or lyrics that don’t advance along with the track.
Please guys…please! Seems like a no-brainer. I’m not arguing to take away other options, just give me back this one

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