The latest update has significantly improved the performance of ARC for me with my large library. Thanks to Roon staff for your hard work and keep it up! cc @noris
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The latest update has significantly improved the performance of ARC with my large library on iPhone. Kudos to Roon staff for continuing to improve ARC–and keep up the good work! cc @noris
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Wonder if offline mode has seen any significant improvements yet. Will have to play around with this over the next little bit.
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Well that is not sounding promising.
All still working perfectly for me on DAP and on iPhone with IEM’s and in CarPlay; listening off-line after downloading 20 hi-res albums, going online once or twice a week to download another album, so far–so good
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I don’t have the same opinion at all; I haven’t seen any improvements with my extensive library. If I delete an album from the core, ARC stops working, crashes, etc. It only works decently when adding new albums. It often crashes when adding albums from Qobuz. It’s also slow to recognize the additions on the Home page. I have an iPhone 17 Pro with a very powerful processor, and ARC is full of bugs and doesn’t work as it should with large libraries; there’s no solution! An audiophile player for small libraries; we pay them to find solutions for those with lots of records.
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I have a huge library but now am only putting 20 or so albums on the iPhone 15 Pro in case I need to delete and reinstall ARC. I ] am adding one or two albums a week and only use ARC for offline listening on CarPlay and when waiting at a restaurant for friends when I only want one device with me and I have the Qobuz app in the phone with about 10 albums that are easy enough to rotate. When taking long walks with the dog, I listen on an AK DAP. So, for now, I’m a happy camper!
I’ve also found SuperGrok to be very helpful when I run into an ARC issue, and am thinking it might be useful for Roon and/or others to prepare YouTube videos in how to use the app and best practices as some audio manufacturers and sellers have been doing
I think ARC may be gaslighting you.
Sounds pretty good to me on both the Burmester and Bose systems in my cars
Yep. It’s gaslighting you 
It sounds fine, too, for me when it works. Often with CarPlay, it just shows “Loading” until I open it in my phone, quit it, re-launch it. Until recently, it was crashing frequently when clicking on search results. I think they finally fixed that bug (for me at least).
I don’t bother to download anything local because that’s never worked reliably for me.
It sounds to me that you’ve been trained to work around its bugs and idiosyncrasies and to accept that you’re the problem. Gaslighting is an artform.
Call it what you like. At a restaurant, I use ARC with an AK HC4 dongle that gives me hi-res and dsd on the phone and have ordered the HC5 which I’m told delivers the same quality as the AK SP-3000
I wish I was sharing in the success that @Norman_Spector is enjoying with the latest build.
My experience is that it’s been a serious reversion in terms of performance. Perhaps I was an outlier in having a stable experience before, but the latest hangs consistently on a “Loading…” screen in CarPlay and crashes every third or fourth session.
I’ve a very large library and that was often pointed to when I criticized ARC so I’ve learned to make it work in my case with a few adjustments. First, I Ioad a limited number of my Roon albums plus dowloaded/purchased Qobuz albums to listen to in the car or when I’m waiting at a restaurant and only want the phone and don’t want to bring my DAP which has a large number of albums on it with me and which I listen to on long dog walks. This makes it simple to delete and reinstall ARC at the first sign of trouble and I’ve become very proficient at identifying signs of trouble! I listen mostly off line but add a couple of albums a week to keep the connection and to refresh my listening. I keep 2 backup SD’s in both cars with 24/48 albums on them whereas I have higher resolutions and even DSD via ARC and an AK dongle on the phone.
I’m still trying to figure out why this thread is called what it’s called. Here are some alternative options:
“How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love ARC”
“ARC: You’re Holding it Wrong”
“How to Train Your ARC”
I’m not suggesting that ARC hasn’t improved but this thread is more about the strategies you use to navigate its issues than about its actual improvements.
The improvements have allowed me to do what I’m doing
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I’m moving to Plex, and so far I’m finding it very good, with just a few features missing from Roon—for example, you can’t browse album art in a folder, and not much else. Plex actually has a very good tagging system, only slightly inferior to Roon. I regret not trying it sooner. I have a month of tag transfer and an adjustment period ahead of me, but I’ve already done half the work in a week. Roon had become unbearable due to the poor quality of ARC. Plex works great. Never a single interruption, never a crash, incredibly fast, and designed to be compatible with large libraries both at home and on the go. This should be my last post on this forum. Sorry, but I’m happy to cancel my Roon subscription. Good luck.
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