ASM35 set ripped off CDs no artwork

Anne-Sophie Mutter’s label (DG I think) issued a now out-of-print total 40cds.The disc jackets from original release are never loaded in Qobuz so I’ve done one by one pasted in artwork. Lastly, are you telling me in 5+ years this still an issue?

Its not clear what the issue is , I suspect you have split the box into individual discs as they were originally released.

when Roon Id’s the discs it will see the original Disc # and try to ID and probably fail or only see it as a part of the box

If you wish to do this you must set the Disc# to 1 for each disc and make the Album Tag = the original album name . Preferably before you import into Roon

You stand a chance then

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Actually, this common box-set handling requirement has been an issue for more than 10 years now. There is no practical workaround for larger streamed Classical box-sets on Qobuz. There are various workarounds for local rips which involve splitting the box into individually identified CD’s, but this box-set is long out of print so that is probably not an option.

It’s not easy but I’ve been able to take an example (the box set on streaming is Tygers of Pan Tang - The MCA Years), because Wild Cat (disc 1) as a separate album (which is what I want) is not on Qobuz.

If you edit The MCA Years → fix track grouping → remove the other 4 discs and save it as a 1 disc album → re-identify it as Wild Cat, you can separate Wild Cat out and assign it the proper art and track metadata/links. Then you can open The MCA Years again and isolate the second disc, and so on.

You do kind of have to keep everything in the streaming box set in your library though (remove any one of the separate entries and your streaming favourite is removed and it will all go away). So I have separated out the 5 albums (as I would do if I owned the CD box set) and they are 5 albums with correct metadata and art in Roon, from a single Qobuz album (and the algo doesn’t recommend me Crazy Nights or Spellbound for example, even though they exist separately on Qobuz, as they are correctly identified and so it knows I have them.)

Interesting, but that is a 5CD Metal box set. I have occasionally done something similar myself with small pop box-sets. But the OP is talking about a 40 CD Classical set. Classical sets routinely reach 100 CD’s and there are examples from 200 to over 300 CDs. The metadata is much more complex with multiple artists, roles, instrumentation, ensemble grouping, periods, composers, and multi-part compositions. But roon is not a tag editor and the limited editing options available are much fewer for streamed compared with local content. Very quickly there are practical limits to the way that the large streamed Classical boxes the OP is referring to are editable in Roon. I gave up a long time ago.

What are my best ripping choices? iTunes Audirvana Studio, Roon or something else? I would like to result that I can play in Audirvana AND Roon if possible. I’m going to have to reduce the several box sets as it’s a waste and there are so many I couldn;t possibly listen to them all.

Are you asking about ripping software , if so rip toFLAC using DbPowerAmp , most users of Roon re commend this

FLAC Is pretty universally playable by all players and is the optimal size and quality option

Audirvana and Roon make a similar mess of boxes , no software cracks it except JRiver where you can define the structure BUT it does not support streaming Qobuz, Tidal etc

Best advice is leave a box as a box, let Roon ID it then use Focus and filter to navigate

We were promised an update to manage boxes BUT :smiling_face_with_horns::zany_face:

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If the discs have individually been released before and what you want is the original releases with each of their artworks etc. then as long as when you rip you give them proper original titles (and folder structure) as if they’re separate albums, rather than e.g. “[Box set] Disc 27” Roon should be able to identify them as the originals and apply artwork in most cases.

If you use dbpoweramp you should be able to get musicbrainz metadata and decent artwork while ripping. Then Roon stuff is just a bonus

It doesn’t sound as if ripping is the problem. It sounds as if tagging the resulting files, whatever ripper you use, is the issue, especially if you want to split the box sets. With Classical, box-sets are often not arranged as sequences of albums, even when they claim to be “original jackets” so it is not aways certain that splitting the box makes the most sense. In either case, Classical box sets are in general so poorly tagged by the labels that the customization involved will need a full range tag editor like m3tag and a steep learning curve.

BTW. My Qobuz only has 6 of the 40 CD’s from the ASM35. Do you see them all?

Haven’t checked on Qobuz. I had the 40 individual cds

To be clear (I am a bit thick this morning)

are you trying to

  • Tag a Favourite from Qobuz
  • A series of hand ripped individual CD’s
  • A series of hand ripped 40 CD Box

Series of hand ripped individual cds,
Series of individual CDs
Series of random CDs

A tad time consuming, but if you want them tagged correctly as individual “albums” can you not simply you one of the many tagging products out there and the MusicBrainz info for the artist?