I selected SPL > tracks > pop/rock from 1970’s and it’s created a playlist of 3610 tracks but everything is in album order.
Am I missing the point of this feature.
Your first screenshot shows the playlist sort as “By Album Artist” – is that not what you want?
I suppose the option should exist, but all of the sort options create either very orderly sorts (album artist for instance) or rather strange ones (by track number gives you all #1 tracks followed by all #2 tracks, etc. Well, someone may find it useful 
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Is the idea to keep the playlist orderly and then use Shuffle on playback? Maybe I’m just not used to this because manually created playlists usually have some more random order.
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Hi @mike
TBH, a feature called SPL, I’d expect it to randomise the track list from the chosen criteria.
The ‘sort by’ options list is fine, but I wouldn’t consider it smart if it tell it what to do, and it’s limited.
SPL to me seems to function as an ‘select all’ way to put my focus selection into a playlist.
To me, in laymen terms be thinking Smart Playlists to be created by some input such as;
Genre > decade > number of tracks > from library or from everywhere (local, Qobuz or Tidal and not just in library)
When hitting save it’d randomly curate a playlist.
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However, I do now have a whole library playlist of 56020 tracks neatly in album order by artist.
Another of just Qobuz
Another of just local content
This is what Tags is for
Don’t want to put a downer on this feature, but without some ‘smart’ it’s a tag function, kind of 
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I’m on the My Albums page. In focus and selected several options. It’s good to see the SPL creator appear.
But it is acting as a glorified tag creator.
Needs to be random with minimal input data.
Almost like Roon Radio. Select a single track and it makes you a playlist of 200 tracks. Totally random but within the scope of genre and maybe a few decades either way.
I thought it’s like a bookmark of a focus on albums or tracks (bookmarks also being dynamic) just by a different name, unless I am missing a functional difference.
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SPL also infers, to me, the playlist maybe dynamic and update periodically. Again a user initial input as to when.
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So, PlexAmp has this when going about creating a playlist by tracks. Random at the bottom.
And then select to download quantity.
Fully randomised
It also has these random tiles (as I call them).
Symfonium has these selection of features.
A carefully curated playlist is one where the listener knows exactly what they want.
A smart playlists in my mind is a fancy way to say random. Give Roon a few crumbs to start with and let it go. I see this kind of feature good for Arc more so than Roon.
Just my views 
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And this feature will be putting @kristi out of a job 
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How did you create an entire library SPL?
Thanks for the feedback. Some really great points here.
Some of the things you’re getting at here we had considered addressing in templates, AKA pre-cooked menu options for SPLs. It’s a significant lift in terms of scope, and I’m not sure we have the appetite for this at the moment, but I think it’s a good way to go for a future iteration.
You raise a good point in that it’s easy to get really big smart playlists, and that makes manipulating them in easy ways, especially in ARC, pretty difficult. Need to chew on this a bit.
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I selected Qobuz and Local via focus and created the SPL 
Also Roon Server wasn’t happy with this. Terrible UI lag and crashed my server for a full restart.
Lenovo ThinkCentre M720Q, i5-8400T, 16gb RAM
I’m also a bit confused - I don’t really see the point of this when we could achieve something similar with bookmarks - I’d have preferred to see these mapped across to ARC rather than another new feature to cause further confusion…but maybe I’m not the target market
Looking at some of the open feature requests für smart playlists, the answer given by other users was often „create a focus and bookmark it“ but this often prompted the response that this doesn’t do what iTunes SPLs do and doesn’t solve the problem.
So if Roon SPLs are just like bookmarked focus with a different name (with the only difference that it can only be tracks or albums and works in ARC), then I reckon it will get the same response
I’m still after a good few hours thinking, thinking that there’s nothing “smart” about this. Sorry 
“Smart” really suggests there’s some self learning algorithms going on based on listening history. Give a single song and it creates a playlist of a number of songs.
Oh, sounds like Roon Radio.
Roon Radio, if you go back through your play history can be selected and added to a playlist.
A feature to auto playlist the last 100 songs in Roon Radio is smart.
From the feedback feature requests I found yesterday, going back to 2020, I counted on 30 votes.
If a number of users do not visit the forum, then I am puzzled as to how this made the new feature slot over other things (which fail me right now).
Sorry Team Roon. I think holding off on this being released would be a better idea until a different iteration can be developed and put out to EA.
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I was also thinking that a Focus to limit Roon Radio to a certain selection might be nice and justify the „smart“ moniker
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This is not smart.
We told Roon what smart meant when Danny asked for what should playlists look like six or more years ago.
This is barely above moron level not smart in any way.
AI is tearing up the road in all directions and this gives a bookmark playlist based on dumb filters.
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