Build 1566 Early Release

Was this expected with this build?

I’m not sure what you mean by expected, but Roon does occasionally update the database when updating the Server software. I just updated to 1566 without any issues.

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Thanks for both reports! We did make some small changes to our database structure in this build, which could explain what you’re seeing. We’ll keep an eye on it — there are more database-related updates in the pipeline, so your feedback here is really helpful.

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Roon ARC works over WIFI, but not cellular. I tried both my Nucleus using port forwarding and NucBox using TailScale. This has already been reported by another user. Roon ARC has been broken for a while.

CORRECTION: Roon ARC is working with my NucBox using Tailscale. It works over WIFI and cellular.

EDIT: I’m also using my MacMini with Tailscale, so I guess I won’t use the Nucleus for Roon ARC until/unless Roon figures out and solves the problem.

Great, my comment was really, if you know that this release/build will go off and make database updates/rebuild include that fact in the release notes and inform the user, so it is expected & understood.

Maybe I am sensitive after one of the past updates, a few years ago, which did involve a database change but the update process corrupted my build and rendered all of my backups useless.
I then had to rebuild completely, losing all of my past playback history etc for the previous 6 years.

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I agree

Backup?

I do feel though that being on EA builds, you take some risk and accept the risk of running into issues.

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Ditching LevelDb? :face_with_hand_over_mouth:

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Yes, but the issue was nothing related to EA builds. It was correcting a bug that had allowed Roon databases to become corrupt over time and be carried into the backups, without anyway to recover from them.
More of an issue of being an early customer, with a Roon database build that dated back to the 1.0 release in 2015

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Yes, I believe a few fell foul to this, inc @mjw

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I was but just one. Boy, that was relatively rough. Years of listening zeroed out.

I empathize with @simon_pepper

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I’ve had to rebuild twice in five or six years. I guess my recent play history really matters to me - I care about what’s unheard in the last month or two, but I don’t really think about anything beyond that. Do you find yourself basing focus on more complex stuff than that? Like what’s unheard in the past five years or something? I’m honestly curious what the use case is (I should say that after the first time I stopped identifying albums in Roon and started using Jaikoz / SongKong to clean up any albums that weren’t identified outside of Roon, and contributing to MusicBrainz)

Hi Johnny

Can only speak for myself, but, I find overall play history very important. Now, there admittedly could very well be a touch of some variation of autistic behaviour going on, on my end, alright, LOL, but, yes, I find all-time play history to be a nice milestone marker for my collection.

Didn’t quite realize just how important it was, to me, before losing it twice.

In any case, I’m going to look into the software you’ve mentioned. I’m curious. Thanks

In the absence of being able to simply enter a play count manually (there really should be such an option) I actually played albums on repeat to a silent output for two years, so that sorting My Albums by play count resembles my life‘s plays at least approximately.

It felt weird to not see the albums in the top spots that I spent the most time listening to in my life, and instead to see random albums that I played 5 times after getting Roon - this made the whole My Albums per Plays view useless to me (and Roon already has different ways to look at most played albums recently)

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Thank you for voicing what I very inelegantly couldn’t articulate.

I’ve spend the past 12-18 months trying to play everything in my enormous library just once.

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I was also affected, and as a very early adopter of Roon I lost years of information - both metadata and play-counts, likes & ratings…
Occasionally sifting through some of the play-count data can be quite fascinating and it’s why I still use Last.fm scrobbling, just in case.

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