· None of the above quite fits
· None of these quite match
· I bought this product because it can convert PCM to DSD, output that through USB to my Eversolo DMP A6, and then output to my native DSD DAC being the Musician Pegasus 3. The process seems extremely and unnecessarily complicated.
· It’s not my network
You could easily take the Eversolo out of the chain to declutter redundancy and make it less complicated.
Care to explain your current set-up decision reasoning?
True. It’s nice to see stuff displayed. I still don’t think it’s going to work though as I can’t get my Roon to output DSD.
Please share the signal path. You also need to use passthrough mode with the Eversolo (which is a rather expensive way to display what’s playing.)
You likely need to manually massage the device setup screen to get what you want, since capabilities are not auto detected and set via USB.
Hey @jeffallen0242,
Thanks for writing in! @mjw is correct here - a screenshot of your signal path would be very helpful in troubleshooting next steps.
We’ll await your reply, thank you!
Signal Path is USB out to Eversolo USB in, then Eversolo USB out to Musician Pegasus 3. The Pegasus 3 to Anthem AVM 70 to Anthem MCA 525 Gen 2 via XLR output via speaker wire to Wharefdale Elysian Speakers. The advantage of this was supposed to be to connect through I2S. However it doesn’t sound like the HDMI out on the Roon or Eversolo DMP A6 will output I2S, with the advantage of I2S being able to adjust sound based on pin settings versus USB. Even connecting the Roon directly to the Musician Pegasus 3 results in no output sound.
Update. I do have sound now when connecting directly to the Musician Pegasus 3 directly from the Roon. When I set both my phone and the Musician Pegasus to DSD over PCM. It does seem to sound a little better than straight PCM which is good, though a tad brighter than straight PCM when ran from the Eversolo to the Pegasus without the Roon Nucleus being involved
Obviously the DAC is not reading DSD though and it won’t work when the Pegasus is set to native DSD.
I still would like it to go through the Eversolo so it displays. I get it, it’s not the end of the world, but it should work. If I had recently bought the Eversolo I would probably take it back
When you are asked for the signal path, you are being asked for the signal path as shown in Roon.
Like this…
It is accessed by clicking the dot which I highlited in yellow on the play bar. As you can see the Signal Path shows what ROON is doing, what it is sending etc. In my case, I’ve set Roon to upscale to DSD256 and you can see it is doing that.
Keep in mind, with DSD make sure there is no DSP going on, no volume leveling, etc as that can stop the conversion to DSD.
Is not an i2s port it is a computer HDMI port, not the same. The pin setting on i2s dont change sound they just enable one device to talk to another as there is no standards for i2s and every company does something different.
Great I can live with that if it shows DSD. Thanks for the heads up. I figured signal path meant the same thing as signal chain. I have seen that. I now have the Eversolo working to display the screen and output to my Musician Pegasus via USB. I had to also switch the Eversolo to DSD over PCM, along with my Pegasus and IPhone before it played music. Here is my signal Path:
Your signal path show the source is FLAC, and no conversion or DSP takes place. Output to the DAC is lossless, but there is no DSD in this example.
Right. That’s the problem. I bought the device to have the Nucleus One convert PCM or FLAC to DSD, and then send DSD to my DAC.
It’s not doing that and the product describes it can do that. How do I get it to do that.
It will only do this if you setup Muse to perform the conversion.
If by product you mean Roon, then go to the MUSE settings for the output and Choose DSD. From my previous post, here is the Muse settings for that Audio Endpoint.
But, when it comes to DSD every step has to handle it right or it will reconvert back to PCM. You need to find out if your DAC and the Eversolo can pass Native or DoP, and then set that correctly on the Eversolo. Note that with DoP, you will loose the highest DSD rate (meaning if your DAC can do DSD 512 Natively, it can only DSD 256 with DoP).
Fantastic. Thank you. Looked all over the app though. Nothing says Muse.
can you tell me how to set up Muse?
Yes both can accept and pass native DSD. I can’t get Muse to pop up, and yes by product I did mean the Roon Nucleus One.
I see how you set Muse up, but there is no where in the app I see Muse.
Choose your Audio Endpoint, then click on the volume icon to bring up a menu, the Muse Icon is the one that looks like a little sine wave. I’ve shaded it yellow in the screen clip below:
Hey @jeffallen0242,
We very much appreciate all the information you’ve shared so far! We don’t have any additional information to share outside of what both @mjw and @Rugby have mentioned above.
Let us know how it goes!
Hey Big Dan,
You have been super helpful. It does look like you are looking at a computer screen though. I have no reason to bring my computer into this at this time. I am more of a vinyl and CD guy truthfully, and the only files I own are trash MP3 files that were free with a vinyl purchase really.
I can’t find that icon in my phone app. I wouldn’t even no where to begin in setting it up either. In reality I just got this to convert PCM to DSD for streaming with zero immediate need for storage despite that I paid for the storage addition. I kind of feel like if I want to listen to vinyl or CD then I will pop it in.
If I add the computer in to this it’s going to open up a thousand more questions is my guess.
At this point I guess I just need Muse to be available in the Nucleus zone and not my computer. I am grateful for the help I am receiving Ben, but I am rather confident we could have got to the bottom of this in a 5 minute phone call. I think we are 20 comments deep over 3 days now. I totally understand the business model of not having a call center. Employing people constantly to be available isn’t a financially sound option.
However there are compromises in things like this. Just sending a ticket for a call back doesn’t require this kind of financial investment, but does result in a much more efficient process.
Granted I have only had this thing a week, but I wanted to share with you that I was hesitant to buy this for a while because of the service issues mentioned in forums and reviews, but I pulled the trigger because I didn’t have to buy a much more expensive DAC that converts PCM to DSD as well as having the upside of storage for the future. At this point I can understand people’s frustration.
I am telling you only because I own a business as well Benjamin, and I would want someone to tell me the same thing.
I do want you to know I am very grateful for the support I am getting through the community though, and assuming we get to the bottom of this, I would gladly tell you I would still buy the product again despite this.
I hope you take this respectfully and thank you for what you have done.
