I have been experiencing the same thing for a few weeks with ROON installed on my Synology NAS 412+. I had assumed that it was because my NAS was old and sluggish - and was actually considering investing into ROCK hardware, but now that I’m reading that, i’m wondering if it’s not a ROON issue (i’m not using ROCK - yet), and my NAS could still work fine without stopping all the time.
Hi @jerome_e ---- Thank you for the report and chiming in to share your feedback with us. The insight is always appreciated!
Moving forward, I have went ahead and split your post out to it’s own thread as we believe you may be experiencing a different issue then what is being reported in the previous thread. To help us better understand this behavior you are experiencing, may I very kindly ask you for the following:
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A brief but accurate description of your current setup using this link as a guide.
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Please verify the size of your collection (based on number of tracks) that is being housed in the 412+.
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Please describe how the 412+ is communicating with your network and the application. I want to have a clear understanding of how content is moving from the NAS, to the core, and then out to your endpoints. Having insight into any networking hardware you are implementing would be very helpful.
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Do you notice the same behavior when playing content directly from the internal storage of your core machine?
-Eric
version of Roon
Core: Diskstation
Roon Version 1.4 (build) 294) stable (64bit)
This Mac
Roon Version 1.4 (build 294) stable (64 bits)
operating system
Mac OS: 10.13.2 (17C88)
Basic information about the device you’re using
iMac Intel Core i5 3.1 GHz 4 cores
Memory: 16 GB
Ethernet:
IPv4 Addresses: 192.168.1.209
SubnetMask: 255.255.255.255
Configuration Method: DHCP
Network Signature: IPv4.Router=192.168.1.1;IPv4.RouterHardwareAddress=48:5d:36:b5:da:94
Router: 192.168.1.1
Subnet Masks: 255.255.255.0
IPv6:
Configuration Method: Automatic
DNS:
Domain Name: fios-router.home
Search Domains: fios-router.home
Server Addresses: 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server Responses:
Domain Name: fios-router.home
Domain Name Servers: 192.168.1.1
Lease Duration (seconds): 0
DHCP Message Type: 0x05
Routers: 192.168.1.1
Server Identifier: 192.168.1.1
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Ethernet:
MAC Address: a8:20:66:15:ab:ac
Media Options: Full Duplex, Flow Control
Media Subtype: 1000baseT
Proxies:
Exceptions List: *.local, 169.254/16
FTP Passive Mode: Yes
Service Order: 0
where music is store
on a Synology NAS
Diskstation > Synology DS412+ > Music
IP Address: 192.168.1.160
collection size
7697 Tracks Imported
Describe Your Network
Roon core and files are on a Synology NAS 421+
I listen mostly to music streamed from Tidal through Roon
I use Roon remote on various iPhones, iPads, and the iMac described before
What router are you using?
Router is the standard Verizon Fios Router Quantum G1100
When did you last update the firmware?
UI Version: v1.0.234
Firmware Version 01.04.00.12
Model Name: FiOS-G1100
Hardware Version: 1.03
Serial Number: G1A116041803424
Physical Connection Type: Ethernet
Broadband Connection Type: DHCP
Broadband Connection Status: Connected
Broadband IP Address: 108.6.208.223
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Broadband MAC Address: 48:5d:36:b5:da:95
Default Gateway: 108.6.208.1
DNS Server: 208.67.222.222, 208.67.220.220
Broadband IPv6 Address:
Active Status (Router Has Been Active For): 49:00:05
NATs Supported (Used/Max): 37/30,000
Is there any other networking hardware involved?
The audio source is an Meridian MS600
Is everything wired, wireless, or is there a mix of wired and wireless gear?
Everything is wired except the Roon remote (iPhones and iPads)
Describe Your Media (if the issue involves playback)
7600 files and Tidal streaming.
Blocks randomly on most Tidal files
If your issue is related to playback, let us know what you’re trying to play, specifically:
Right now, it was a Tidal Playlist of Blues, starting with Cream “Crossroad” that stops after 1:20 min. But it happens a lot lately on many other material. There are days in and days out.
What format and type of file are you trying to play?
Tidal
Does this issue happen with all files or just some?
It’s rather random. I originally thought i noticed it more on high res MQA, but now i’m not sure anymore
Where did the media come from? Did you rip it or convert yourself, or did you purchase it somewhere?
Ripped myself, but that is not really the issue here
Describe Your Tidal Setup (if the issue involves Tidal content)
Tidal Hifi (lossless) account
If your issue is related to syncing, browsing, or playing Tidal content, please let us know:
Playing Tidal content, and browsing, when the Disksytaion often “disconnects” and Roon is spinning for 10-20 seconds until it finds it again
What country your Tidal account is from?
USA
A link to the song(s) you’re trying to play on the Tidal website
Crossroads "Wheels Of Fire (Remastered) Performed by Cream
What you’re seeing for Library Sync Time on the Services tab of Settings
19:17:51
If the issue involves a playlist that is failing to sync, please let us know
Playslist and individual songs, indiscriminately
Whether it’s a private playlist you’ve created yourself, or something publicly available on the Tidal website
Tidal public playlist
If it’s a public playlist, please provide a link
“Rockin’ the Blues”
Music is playing again now by the way…
Whether the songs in that playlist can be played in Roon from other screens in Roon (ie, if you search for them)
It’s quite random
Right now it just stopped again playing “I’m Steady Rollin’ Man” by George Thorogood…
Describe Your Output (if the issue involves playback via a specific output)
Meridian MS600
Hi @jerome_e ----- Thank you for touching base with me and providing the requested feedback. Both are very appreciated!
A few things moving forward…
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- After reading your update I did some research on this NAS to get a better sense as to what it’s capabilities are and according to the device’s spec sheet it is using an ATOM processor which is why you could be facing performance issues as cited in our knowledge base here.
In light of the above I would recommend trying the following the tests in the order listed below to see if we can trigger a change in performance:
- From your follow up it “sounds” like you have an iMac (Intel Core i5 3.1 GHz 4 cores) currently working as a remote device to control RoonServer on the NAS. Please try letting this computer host your Roon core and verify if you run into the same issue(s).
If performance does not improve with the iMac hosting Roon and the NAS just acting as a network storage device…
- With the iMac still acting as your core machine, please disable your network storage folders and move some media to the internal storage of the iMac. Create a “test watch” folder using the media now on the iMac and watch the folder in Roon. How do things perform?
-Eric