Convolution + MQA = speed Issue

I should have a cable somewhere… I tried with other roon endpoint and it works… cause he doesn’t have MQA capability.
What should we understand connecting Nucleus to DAC directly? if the ethernet is the issue?

Ethernet or something else with the network. I do not have any idea for the moment. Or you can go with the dac to the nucleus if it is easier

usually ROON suggest to avoid to connect them directly but I can try

Yes I know, but till now I did not managed to have a streamer, always core on m1 mini USB to different dacs

By the way… it drives me nuts. Now I think my sistem goes on 1.1 speed with any file, so I did go to my girl and ask her to speak just to settle my brain :slight_smile:

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nuclues connected to DAC with USB seems to work but DAC doesn’t show MQA symbol.
Path seems ok not?

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I think nucleus is linux so I do not now if ALSA it the correct driver, ALSA I think stands for Advanced Linux Sound Architecture so I think is ok.

But why no mqa showed on DAC.

Path ok but where are the convolution?

I think you have to redo all the setting as for other connection it is like another endpoint

Have to go shopping with one of my kids, but I’ll be back

really don’t worry!

Convolution was my fault…

So, same convolution, same track sample rate all goes normal speed using the usb? Does the DAC show Mqa symbol?
Totally weird.
Can you use an older MacBook to connect to the network as a roon endpoint and connect the dac to the MacBook? Just to rule out all the network parts beside the ethernet card of your goldnote.

There are so many things. For example I have dropouts on mqa’s only when dac is connected usb to a Mac m1. Tried different dacs, different Macs, usb or ethernet, roon vs tidal. Only roon on M1 connected USB playing mqa has dropouts.

@Luca_Celli

Is your Gold note DS-10 Evo DAC on the latest firmware?

I initially read your post wrong. Music plays 10% fast when streaming via ethernet as a Roon endpoint.

I’d look at firmware update

@AMT

Yes, the firmware is update.

Problem is that roon play faster 44-16-44 mqa when convolution is active

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I have had a similar issue before now but it being slow not fast. A simple reboot of all components sorted it out.

@Simon_Arnold3 was your problem with MQA, only at certain frequencies and bits?

I can’t remember it was some time ago it just got in a state where it just played back slowish and choppy it’s never done it again.

@Simon_Arnold3 it didn’t work

So this happens if you use the network connection to the Goldnote only and not via USB? If so then there must be some issue with its RAAT implementation this is one for support.

@Simon_Arnold3
Thank Crystal, I couldn’t figure it out if it works via Usb cause I’m not sure that the dac full decoded mqa in my trials, mqa icon on DAC didn’t show up.
I tried several settings on Nucleus and mcabook as @Traian_Boldea suggested me but I can’t do it. do you know how should I set nucleus directly to dac in order to let the dac doing the mqa job?

If your doing dsp then some elements of that will break MQA encoding. You need to enable Roons MQA decoder, set the DAC to be a renderer only.
Then it will preserve MQA signalling and the MQA rendering stage will be performed by the DAC. How it displays this on the DAC may be different to it doing a full MQA decode which you can’t do with DSP at all anyway.

In your screengrab above it is doing what it should correctly Roon is applying dsp and maintaining MQA signalling and passes this to DAC to render to the next stage.

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I do DSP and I use decoding and rendering on the DAC (not need enable decoding in ROON) but in the signal path it seems, as you said, that ROON does the decoding and preserves.
By the way in both the configuration, deconding and rendering or only render the DAC show up the MQA icon.
Nucleus connected directly to DAC with USB doesn’t show the icon and below you can find the path. Don’t you think the step of rendering is missing, or do you think that the fact that the signal path swows “preserve status” it means the there will be a rendering status even if is not shown?

one weird thing is that in this configuration, when I play MQA 44-16-44 the DAC shows a 88.2 signal

You just need it to set it as renderer only when applying DSP the DAC isn’t decoding Roon needs to decode to apply the DSP so it can maintain MQA signalling. You only use decoder and renderer if you DAC is an MQA decoder and Renderer and kit using any DSP.

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