Difficulty in Adding Songs to Precise Spot in Large Playlist in Roon (ref#ML5IAL)

What’s happening?

· Something else

How can we help?

· I'm having trouble adding music to my library

Describe the issue

Adding songs to a specific spot in a very large playlist.

Windows Media Player Legacy had an extremely
simple method of adding songs stored on your computer to playlists, regardless of the size of the playlist, by simply playing the playlist with the playlist on the right side of the screen, then navigating to the album/song you want to add on the left side of the screen, and then dragging and dropping the song from the left side of the screen to the right side of the screen to the desired precise location in the playlist. You could easily scroll the playlist to the desired location before you dragged and dropped the song. Adding entire albums to the playlist, with the songs evenly spread out, was a breeze. I had 4500+ cds, and I organized the playlists by years, over 20 years worth, with 400-800 songs per year. I hadn't even gone through my entire collection when my wife and I lost everything in a wildfire, including my CDs, my music server (a PC I built for the purpose), and accompanying playlists. I've replaced about half of my collection, and that should be enough.

I bought a lifetime subscription to Roon, hoping to get the latest technology, and it's time to rebuild my playlists. Much to my surprise, Roon doesn't seem to have a simple way to place songs in a particular location in a very large playlist. Yes, you can add a song or even an entire album to the playlist, but everything defaults to the bottom of the playlist, and then you have to move each song up to where you want it. I'm aware that you can click on the song and use the home/end, page up/down buttons and up/down arrows to get the song to the right place, but there are about 8 songs per page on my not-too-small monitor, so you have an awful lot of paging to do for each song before you get to where you want to be. If you have a keyboard that requires you to press a function key to activate the page up/down buttons at the same time you select the song, then you have an awful lot of hand gymnastics to do. Before, all it took was two thumbs and a handheld mini keyboard (Logitech DiNovo Mini, to be exact). I could even do it while working out on a stationary bike with a monitor on a stand in front of me, which is when I created all my playlists through the years. Easy Peasy.

Now that WMP legacy is packaged with the latest versions of Windows, I thought of creating playlists in WMP Legacy and importing the files into Roon. Nope. Roon does not convert WPL files. So I tried a WPL to M3U converter, but that didn't work either. I found the Ron Horwitz thread on the proper format for M3U files, but the editing required would not be feasible for very large playlists that keep growing and would have to be converted on a regular basis.

Is there any chance Roon could adopt the user-friendly and downright trivial way WMP made playlists? If not, are there more user-friendly ways to accomplish my goal? I keep thinking that I'm missing some fundamental aspect of the software, but I've spent days searching online working on a solution, and I've come up empty-handed. I never dreamed that making large playlists would be such a kludge on such expensive modern software, especially when software that is primitive by today's standards could do it so easily.

Describe your network setup

It's not a network problem, it's a software feature problem.

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A similar problem is when you’d like to queue an album, but not at the end of the queue, not to be played next, but after the currently playing album.

P.S. For converting and importing playlists, use Soundiiz.

Thanks, Goran. I checked Soundiiz as part of my research, but they transfer playlists from one streaming music service to another. Apparently not playlists used for music stored on a hard disc drive on your computer. Windows media player is not supported, according to the search box on their web site. That’s too bad, because it looks like a great tool otherwise.

Maybe you could convert playlist to Tidal with Soundiiz, make a copy of Tidal playlist in Roon and then use Roon’s playlist improver to convert it to your local copies?

I can imagine it could be a lot of work and might not always work, but, who knows…

Again, according to Soundiiz, they don’t support Windows Media Player .wpl playlist files.

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