DSD ISO Support

From what I have seen, Roon devs are not willing to create a solution that creates a situation where there is different performace/specifications between different sources. In effect, setting up a second class existence for some source content.

Danny mentioned export issues, deletion issues. But, but album identification and other processes would also have to be modified.

If Roon were to tackle ISO handling, and to be clear they haven’t said they would not, I suspect that it would have to be up to a level of the rest of the software. Meaning, just adding playback alone probably would not happen. The solution for the other issues concerning ISO would also have to be addressed at the same time.

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I think it depends how many SACDs you own. I already converted more than 1000. I know it is work and time lost. You need to buy more storage etc…

Nobody said that there are no downsides. I think every compromise comes with it’s downsides.

Which compromise?

OK - let me correct myself: For somebody who doesn’t want to use ISO files, it is an unnecessary feature. Which is true for ANY feature a user doesn’t use.

Also, I hope to have made a point that avoiding converting effort is a good thing.

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As of now, that you have to convert the ISO files to be able to play the tracks in Roon.

This is no compromise. This is complete unnecessary work on my part. A waste of my time and money.

that sound’s compelling and I like their approach.
If they decide to support ISO in the future, the result would be much better.
But I’m sure most of the users who placed or supported the feature request would be ok with the compromise (to only support playback).

one last thing: i just sorted all the feature request entries by views.
I know this number depends on how long it was online already, etc.

Fact is, it is the top 5 most viewed feature request entry in the forum (with >25K views at the time of writing this reply; not including all the duplicate threads).

First, i apologize for using the term “you” in my previous post. It was intended as a generalization.

“If one has the skillz and equipment to rip one’s SACD, surely this person also have the tools and knowledge to make the rips usable in your preferred music playing software.”

For your information, i do rip SACD and prepare them for playback in several playback scenarios. The last one yesterday, as it happens.

And to elaborate why i think it’s a good idea to not delve into file management, which is the case here. The purpose of Roon is to probide the best experience playing back local media and streamed content from select streaming services. Also providing bit perfect playback on various hardware, ranging from a few dollars in cost up to five figure price tags. In adressing “left field” requests, Roon becomes more complex and demanding to maintain.
Please note, iso support is in my opinion “left field”, perhaps not yours, but i play back files in at least five different software/hardware combinations and only one of them support iso-files as far as i know, and that would be JRiver.

It’s all just my opinion, as stated. But i am equally entitled to voice up against a proposal that i feel would take up valuable developer time and resources, not to mention steering Roon off into another direction which is not what i signed up for.

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SACD ISO playback is supported by JRiver, Audirvana and Foobar.

You mean like local content :laughing:

shushh you… keep on topic. :smiley:

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Always on topic :innocent:

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Sure they do. But they don’t have to figure out a way to make the user experience the same in software as sophisticated as Roon. Roon does not want the user experience and feature set to be different based on the format of the music file(s). There are zillion things Roon does based on tracks that would either not work at all or be severely altered.

I am surprised that you are not at least a little bit aware of these issues and sensitive to why Roon would not want to tackle the problem for so few customers.

I am not really insisting in that devilish desire for Iso support. I just wake up when one of the few other lost sacd iso souls write about their uncontrollable desire to steer Roon away into that ISo abyss and suck all blood and time out the developer team.
I will work on my uncontrollable wishes.

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I have my entire DVD-A/Sacd collection is ISO format, this was so that I can play them on my Oppo 205 in a gapless manor.

The way I use roon is that I have a rasperry PI (ropiee) connected to the oppo 205 usb input, this is in turn connected to my parasound P5, for stereo this gives me the best results, If I want to listen to multichannel files I use the ISO direct through my Oppo 205 from either usb drive or SMB. In this case the Oppo is connected to my marantz 8802A via HDMI or 7.1 analog input (depending on how I feel that day I cant decide which sounds better)

If Roon handled iso files and was able to send multichannel files to the oppo I would definitely have roon as my one interface (which I would preffer) The way i see it I would have to buy a exa E38 markii with a new halo p7 (7.1 pre pro) to levarage the oppo 205 dac as well as convert my entire collection back to seperate files.

I feel this is a lot of money to spend in order to use roon in my use case, If it wasnt for having to convert all the files I might think about it.

If roon saw my iso files I could atleast add them to the library and perhaps play the stereo only part of the ISO in this way my system would be less fragmented so yes I would vote for iso.

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Trial user here, with JRiver, Foobar, MusicBee and BeaTunes experience and lots of SACD ISO’s.

For me a basic requirement for a music player with this kind of price tag is hassle-free playback of a non-niche high quality format like SACD.

Having to switch to another player to play my SACD ISO’s or spend weeks converting ISO-files doesn’t go well with the supposed appeal of roon as a comprehensive all-in solution and end game player.

From what I understand roon has a very well-thought-out architecture which aims to ensure a high-quality and seamless user experience, but paradoxically it achieves exactly the opposite in this case.

Having said that, I do appreciate the fact that it’s not trivial to implement. I just hope the devs can go a bit easy on themselves. There are other features where compromise in integration was deemed acceptable (squeezebox support for example).

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But Sqeezbox support does not compromise the core feature set of the program. So much of what Roon does is track-based and it would be impractical to do with ISO tracks.

I know that there are ways to convert (iso2dsd, XRECODE), but SACD ISO support would be great! If Roon would like to be the most comfortable and the best (and not only the most expensive) for digital audio…

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