Ethernet "treatment"?

Toslink doesn’t send Ethernet. Toslink sends I2S, along with a clock PLL. The optical transceivers add jitter to the clock with toslink. However with Ethernet, it doesn’t send an audio clock. That comes after the Ethernet. So jitter with Ethernet is a non issue.

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I haven’t experimented much with copper cables. Because after I discovered how much better a $3 fiber cable is for the role, I gave up on copper cables.

Physics, please!

The fiber cable isolates any EMI and noise emitted from any of the components upstream of the DAC/streamer. As this noise can’t travel through light and glass. Only the data ends up making it into the streamer/DAC and nothing else.

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So you are use a fiber cable to connect the NUC and the DAC?

If the DAC had a fiber Ethernet input then that would be the way to go.

So the DAC should have an UI enabling the exploration and choice of what you want to listen …

That’s what you would use Roon for.


Now I understand!

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https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1327099-REG/ubiquiti_networks_uf_sm_1g_s_u_fiber_sfp_mini_gbic.html

The age of copper is over.

If anyone wants a future proof switch, here’s the one to get. 12 SFP ports and 10G speeds!

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Your physical explanation is null without a description of what you are convinced is the most appropriate stack (HW + SW) to listen streamed Music.
Please avoid to mention the products you sell !

My stack is quite trivial (and not so expensive: < 4,000$):

  1. 8Mbps ADSL (so it’s copper wired, not fiber)
  2. Wi-Fi Router
  3. Fanless https://www.amazon.it/Broadwell-Barebone-Fanless-4xUSB3-0-Aluminum/dp/B01GBHBV6M/ref=pd_sbs_107_12?_encoding=UTF8&refRID=E3BQ38RJQK6JX4GPFATJ&th=1, Windows 10 PC, optimized for Music
  4. Qobuz (as streaming service)
  5. JRiver Media Center 22 (as WDM driver, and DSP -sometimes)
  6. USB cable (of reasonable, not stellar, quality)
  7. http://www.audiolab.co.uk/product-detail.php?pid=8, DAC & CD Player (not the latest generation: upsamples “only” to 176.4 Khz/24 bits)
  8. http://www.xindak.com/en-us/product_detail_info.aspx?ProductID=427, Hybrid amplifier (connected to the DAC via XLR cables, http://gebl.it/audio/rca/cavi-rca-stereo/486-cavo-audio-2-xlr-maschio-2-xlr-femmina-l06m , once more of reasonable, not stellar, quality): pre tubes are NOS (6922 Sylvania) of good quality
  9. Power conditioner http://www.xindak.com/en-us/product_detail_info.aspx?ProductID=489 (of reasonable, not stellar, quality)
  10. Power cables http://www.xindak.com/en-us/product_detail_info.aspx?ProductID=234 (of reasonable, not stellar, quality)
  11. Loudspeakers system: http://www.audiocostruzioni.com/r_s/diffusori/sonus-faber-toy-tower/toy%20tpwer%20sonus%20faber.jpg (I guess that in the USA you like it!)
  12. Loudspeakers cables http://gebl.it/audio/potenza/cavi-terminati/5485-cavo-terminato-serie-hp2ca-2x3m-con-terminali-a-banana-serie-hps07 (of reasonable, not stellar, quality)

G’day Teodoro

Very nice stack mate. At the end of the day, it’s just about enjoying the music, which it sounds like you are.

Cheers mate

Thanks. It seems to me very standard.
Yes you can replace (Qobuz, JRiver Media Center) with (Tidal, Roon), but apart that I guess that 90% of “us” are using the same stack (with different products, of course!).
So we don’t need any Ethernet cable immersed in snake oil …

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Enjoy your system mate and most importantly, the music. This is going in circles

Guys - I need you all to read the forum guidelines. Again.

If you think someone is wrong, say why. If you think someone is stupid, keep it to yourself. If you disagree with someone on something subjective, agree to disagree and do it in a civilized way.

Get it together, guys. If you can’t be on this site and act like an adult, then you can’t be on this site.

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