Bans ony prevent the item from being auto-played when you start play from a higher level. So if you ban a track, it won’t play if you play the album or in Roon Radio. If you ban the album, it won’ play if you play the artist. If you ban an artist, nothing from them will play in Radio. And so on. But you can still choose to play the item on purpose (which is a good thing), so it is still visible and not hidden.
And you can’t hide something without first adding it to the library, which is a bit silly.
I came across this Ted Talk from 4 months ago. I do enjoy this guys channel. I don’t know if I agree with him 100%. However, his comments about emotion in art does hold close to the question he tries to answer “What is real music?”
To be clear: Qobuz is clear at the moment, anyway.
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(Joel (Former Roon developer; now retired))
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It’s an industry-wide problem and the bad actors are ahead of the industry. Apologies for the title of this video; it’s good (and scary) watching though.
An interesting read on the subject of AI technology…
The New Cool Thing: Being Human by Ted Gioia
The new jobs won't be in coding, but for curators, concierges, caregivers, conversationalists, and other flesh-and-blood alternatives to bots and algorithms
Tidal will identify and tag AI-generated music in our app. Listeners will see an “AI” badge next to music we detect as wholly AI-generated.
Tidal will not tolerate AI-generated music that impersonates an artist or group, or that facilitates fraudulent activity. We’re implementing automatic tools to remove these releases immediately and on an ongoing basis.
Tidal will not allow music that is 100% AI-generated to be monetized. No royalties will go to such releases, nor will AI-generated uploads be eligible for direct-to-fan sales.
We will expand these policies to music that is substantially AI-generated when AI detection technology is sufficiently reliable to do so.
Since TIDAL will tag this music, I am hoping that this will be exposed to Roon, and in the future we may either filter or ban the content (a setting similar to explicit lyrics.)
All of the content on streaming services is uploaded to them by the artists or companies that do so on behalf of the artists. There’s no easy way for the streaming companies to get the massive amounts of music being uploaded, so as long as there are companies willing to upload AI slop it’s going to available on the streaming sites.
I also got the email from Tidal. I’m glad to see it. It’s a difficult conversation because I’m certain that artists are now using ai to write and produce their music. But with the help of this community I determined, for myself, that I would resist fully ai generated music as long as I could detect it. If for no other reason than I wasn’t suffering from a lack of real musicians playing music that I genuinely like. I listen to Tidal via Roon at home and my car streams Spotify. Spotify seems MUCH worse than Tidal and I am often suspicious - particularly in the jazz and blues genres. But like art, I’m generally able to detect it for now (I assume that will change). I think that Tidal’s policy was pretty well thought out.
