Focus does not allow inverse of Duplicates anymore


Apart from Focus criteria being moved it seem Duplicates (“Kopior” in Swedish) has lost it’s option to be Inversed. If i click it the Focus tag simply disappears?

My initial purpose was to show which Albums are in my local library in ONLY MP3-format…

You can accomplish what you want by using focus to select Storage Location and select your local library, then add a focus for MP3 format.

I can confirm this bug; same thing happens with the Duplicates criterion using English.

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I actually had forgotten, but obviously this has been a bug since over 2 years?

And more recent:

There is still no option to Inverse duplicates (and i’m sure, other Focus criteria…)

Can we please focus on the bare essentials for a while? Fix what’s broken, focus (pun intended) on behaviour.
Managing your library like handling box sets, ability to share playlists between users, syncing edits/playlists between Cores. Basically more in line with the original promise, the best musical playback software for music enthusiasts…

I couldn’t care less if i can read Pjotr Illjich Tjajkovskij in cyrillic text, i’d much rather have a better curated library and the ability to find his work in a box set…

Hi @Mikael_Ollars ,

Thanks for the report here. I checked with the team and I can confirm that this is expected behavior. The inverse of duplicates was an unintended byproduct of how Focus originally worked. Rather than leave it in and create confusion, we decided to remove the inverse capability from duplicates and it now only works in one direction.

Damned Noris, if this is intended behaviour please elaborate on why, oh why?
What on earth could make this “too confusing” when every other focus criteria is reversible?

Roon continues to amaze… In more than one way…

I have using something like this, out of my slow brain I was using a tag to select the duplicates and then flip that tag to red (Maybe when I did this I did observe that you cannot inverse Duplicates but I do not remember). Not a elegant way to do it. Maybe I’m a roon newbie or it is my poor English but I do not quite understand: The inverse of duplicates was an unintended byproduct of how Focus originally worked.

The Focus function had a completely different UI design (and software coding) in early versions of Roon, and then it was possible to invert Duplicates.

I suppose that Roon Labs thought that “not-duplicates” was not necessary to display in the re-design of Focus, since it is the same state as when “Duplicates” is not selected in the first place…

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Thank you for posting this (I think I started with 1.7 or 1.8), I now get the picture. I like the looks of the old focus :slight_smile:

Hi @Geoff_Coupe,

Is that logic true?

Assuming no other filters are in use …

  • Not selecting Duplicates will display all albums.

  • Where as selecting and then inverting Duplicates would show albums that did not have a duplicate.

Going back to @Mikael_Ollars use case …

  • Display MP3 tracks that do not have an alternative (duplicate) in my library.

I’m struggling to think of a way to achieve this without having an inverted Duplicate focus option.

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Yes, you’re right - oh well, back to the drawing board…

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There is a workaround, but it is not ´nice’

Focus on duplicates, select all remaining albums, add a ´duplicate´ tag ,
Go back to all albums, focus using the new tag, inverse the tag and that prides the desired result

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