HQPlayer NAA thread

Connected the UpBoard Gateway to TV and after booting the device it stops to ask for a login, is it supposed to do that?

That’s normal, you don’t need to log in, it’s up and running.

Ok, thanks. So where do I start looking for the solution, I’ve tried all I can think of, but it’s now already second day that I’m not able to play any music via the NAA, it is not found by HQPlayer.

Anything in HQPlayer settings I can try? Or MacMini settings?

If your DAC is up and USB input is selected, but nothing appears at HQPlayer side, then likely either the HQPlayer application access rights have changed or something else has changed at the Mac side in terms of network setup.

I’m assuming you are wired to Ethernet with the Mac Mini, so please check that the WiFi is disabled. And also System Preferences / Security and Privacy side HQPlayer has all the requested privileges. In this respect “allow to find devices on local network” or similar.

Yeah, it probably is some network setup, but I have no clue what it is and what happened since the exactly same set up has been working fine for more than 2 years and then suddenly stopped.

My DAC, Ayre QB-9 Twenty is USB only DAC, so nothing has changed there, MacMini and Up Board Gateway are connected to same Network via same switch (English Electric 8Switch) via Ethernet cables, as they always have been.

Like said the only change I’m aware of is the MacOs update, so it might be pointing to Mac OS settings. But I don’t know what this setting could be, where do I find this “allow to find devices on local network” in current Mac OS settings? Can anybody help, please?

This is one of the macOS settings related to the NAA discovery:

You can also try uninstalling the software first; IOW, drag the HQPlayer applications from Applications folder to the bin. And then install again the latest version. Just in case. And if at application startup you get prompts for some permissions, check those out and grant the asked permissions. If for example above one is denied, then HQPlayer won’t be able to find any NAAs.

(I have same application twice, as the other one is development version)

Thank you! Yes, HQPlayer was disabled, probably because of the MacOs update(?) and after enabling it, HQPlayer found the NAA again. So simple, but just couldn’t find this by myself :sweat_smile:

Just don’t understand why the Mac OS update has disabled these? Hasn’t happened before

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It has happened to me multiple times, both for HQPlayer and for Roon. Apple has again decided in its “infinite” (sarcasm quotes) wisdom that they know better than you how to “protect” you. And of course, they’t place that network setting under Privacy & Security, not Network, just because? And by the way, even without a macOS update, sometimes you get a pop-up at the most inconvenient time asking to re-allow an app to access the local network.

Yes, updates should not change any settings, that is just stupid. Anyways, now when I know this it is easy to correct, but as you said they’ve done a good job to hide these settings as well

Latest update to Mac OS also turns on auto update if you switched it off as well.
The biggest benefit of infinite wisdom is that it never runs out and only gets wiser

Hi all,

I’m fairly new here (to both Roon and HQPlayer) but have committed with a Mac mini and an Intel NUC. (I probably could have just got the Mac mini… anyway)

Next step is an NAA.

I’ve been reading about the options, and a Raspberry Pi4 is in my sights.

Then there’s a Holo Red (and I have a Holo May if that matters).

And then there’s ones from the HQPlayer site and other threads here.

Looking at the recommended NAA’s here I’ve noted that a few of the links are broken / the products have been superseded.

Maybe one for @jussi_laako. Would you mind please:

a) explaining the benefits and downsides of an Up Board (Up Squared system?) vs. a RPi4 vs a fitlet vs Holo Red
b) linking to the current recommended versions of the Up Board and the fitlet

Not really sure which processors etc to go for.

Also, will I expect much of an improvement vs. running the Mac mini via a USBC ro USBA adaptors straight into the May. I understand the May’s USB is isolated anyway so is there a point (other than to run DSD not via DoP which limits my ability to go to higher resolutions???)

Thanks - lots of questions but there don’t seem to be many clear answers for newbies like me!

The Holo DACs USB is so good that I’d just buy a RPi 4 and a memory card with a NAA image. I bought the Red, and it didn’t improve the sound, but it sure looks nice if you want to burn some cash…

edit. I sold Red after a week of trying it out..

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UP and RPi4 can operate as USB input NAA, in addition to operating as output NAA.

I have the newer UP 4000, but I really haven’t got time to test it for the input side. And not so much testing for output side either.

If you need just output, Holo Red is good choice for many cases.

Biggest difference will be getting around the CoreAudio DoP limitations.

In other words the maximum DSD playing capacity of May will be split in half because DoP, to DSD 512 x 48, instead of DSD 1024 x 48 right if using NAA on Rpi4 or similar

RPI4 can do DSD1024 (x44.1 and x48) without issues

I know! Have one with my Spring , what I’m trying to say (with my bad writing :rofl:), is that if you connect the Mac mini directly to the Holo May, it would not allow more than DSD512x48 because it’s using DoP, instead of DSD1024 x 48 native DSD like NAA can reach for the Holo May Specs(Because DoP limitations as mentioned above on Mac Mini and Core Audio :backhand_index_pointing_up:t3:) edit :writing_hand: