# I don’t like 1.8 - it feels like a massive failure **URL:** \ **Category:** Roon Software Discussion\ **Created:** [February 10, 2021, 9:01am UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/i-don-t-like-1-8-it-feels-like-a-massive-failure/141422 "2021-02-10T09:01:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 26
**Author:** ![Alex\_Reusch](https://community.roonlabs.com/user_avatar/community.roonlabs.com/alex_reusch/32/38934_2.png) [@Alex\_Reusch](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/Alex_Reusch)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 7:40pm UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/i-don-t-like-1-8-it-feels-like-a-massive-failure/141422/540 "2021-02-11T19:40:33Z")
> [@Quaerit](#): > > Roon has been quite consistent, and for the past few years felt quite dated in my opinion. So if not changing is consistent then yes. I am not against change. Not at all. I do work in a constantly changing industry and change is a necessity in order to develop further. I don’t think any roon user is against change on principle. But if the motivation for the change is change alone, then the reason for it is very questionable. I think it is hilarious to talk about being antiquated when a product represents the absolute industry benchmark and is praised and lauded by everyone in the highest terms. Look, we are not talking about a free software here. In addition, many long-time customers have built an ecosystem around Roon and invested quite a bit in it. Making such a radical move out of nowhere (without any real need) and thus upsetting loyal customers is not really a sustainable business model. Seriously, please install the Qobuz app on your iOS or Android device and tell me if you don’t notice anything? Roon now looks like a cheap copy of Qobuz. Did they hire the junior designer from Qobuz and just let him do it? It doesn’t even have the polish of Qobuz. That’s how poorly it is implemented. To be clear: Qobuz is not a reference for the best UI. But at least Qobuz shows album cover art for tracks within playlists… For me, this new user interface is 3 steps back. Now Roon is even worse than its former silent admirers (Tidal, Qobuz etc.). From an industry benchmark to a laughing stock in a single day. 🤦‍♂️ And now you just have to be honest and take a closer look at the feedback in the forum. It’s not just about the UI, but also about the software quality in general. I guess that more than half of the comments contains sharp criticism. No matter if it’s UI, stability or functions: You just have to admit that Roon did a bad job here. And again as a reminder… Roon is not freeware. I am not concerned with whether a manufacturer makes mistakes. Mistakes happen. But the way this upgrade was rolled out was so reckless and dilettant, that the dissatisfaction of its users is understandable. ---
**Author:** ![Frank\_Farrell](https://community.roonlabs.com/letter_avatar/frank_farrell/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Frank\_Farrell](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/Frank_Farrell)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 7:48pm UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/i-don-t-like-1-8-it-feels-like-a-massive-failure/141422/542 "2021-02-11T19:48:54Z")
I like the new 1.8. There I said it! ---
**Author:** ![David\_Hammond](https://community.roonlabs.com/letter_avatar/david_hammond/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@David\_Hammond](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/David_Hammond)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 7:59pm UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/i-don-t-like-1-8-it-feels-like-a-massive-failure/141422/543 "2021-02-11T19:59:19Z")
My feelings exactly ---
**Author:** ![herdel](https://community.roonlabs.com/letter_avatar/herdel/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@herdel](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/herdel)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 8:17pm UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/i-don-t-like-1-8-it-feels-like-a-massive-failure/141422/544 "2021-02-11T20:17:49Z")
And you have time to explore, the other one have not ! Is your opinion not to early too ? ---
**Author:** ![Chrislayeruk](https://community.roonlabs.com/user_avatar/community.roonlabs.com/chrislayeruk/32/47983_2.png) [@Chrislayeruk](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/Chrislayeruk)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 8:24pm UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/i-don-t-like-1-8-it-feels-like-a-massive-failure/141422/545 "2021-02-11T20:24:11Z")
I have explored a lot and found out a lot. So now I am not complaining. Is Roon perfect? No… Is Roon the best there is for managing a home library and combining it with quality streaming in an intuitive interface giving full integration to the music and allowing access to extensive metadata leading one to enjoying more and more music? Yes! Does the colour mauve matter in the great scheme of things? No… Do circle pre view pics matter? No Will these issues be addressed and refined over time? Probably, especially if reasons for change and desired alternatives are presented in a calm and respectful manner. Is Roon Stable? Yes Can font size be adjusted? See above… ---
**Author:** ![Aron\_Ecsedy](https://community.roonlabs.com/letter_avatar/aron_ecsedy/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Aron\_Ecsedy](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/Aron_Ecsedy)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 8:30pm UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/i-don-t-like-1-8-it-feels-like-a-massive-failure/141422/546 "2021-02-11T20:30:56Z")
Prove me wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Bo\_Hjortstrand](https://community.roonlabs.com/letter_avatar/bo_hjortstrand/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Bo\_Hjortstrand](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/Bo_Hjortstrand)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 8:32pm UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/i-don-t-like-1-8-it-feels-like-a-massive-failure/141422/547 "2021-02-11T20:32:29Z")
The font’s used all over the interface is a big mess, same is the colors used. @Roon please give the user the choice to change font and color in the app (Mac & Win) ---
**Author:** ![Damian\_Kurgan](https://community.roonlabs.com/user_avatar/community.roonlabs.com/damian_kurgan/32/120865_2.png) [@Damian\_Kurgan](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/Damian_Kurgan)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 8:40pm UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/i-don-t-like-1-8-it-feels-like-a-massive-failure/141422/548 "2021-02-11T20:40:07Z")
> [@Customizing the Roon theme](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/i-love-hate-delete-as-applicable-the-purple/142548/): > > It turns out that the roon folks probably know what they are doing. And had a mind to making things more flexible… Not saying everyone should go mess around with it just that roon have made it so that change is pretty easy going forward. I changed 4 lines and have a consistent new colour… ---
**Author:** ![Phil\_Ryan](https://community.roonlabs.com/letter_avatar/phil_ryan/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Phil\_Ryan](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/Phil_Ryan)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 8:40pm UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/i-don-t-like-1-8-it-feels-like-a-massive-failure/141422/549 "2021-02-11T20:40:34Z")
I don’t really get that, as a Tidal user you have gained nothing from this release that I can see, so much of the Tidal functionality is missing, even the free LUMIN app gives the ‘My Mixes’ etc but Roon can’t deliver this. As a Tidal user it’s a miss for me, I’ll be reverting to the LUMIN app and use Tidal connect to my Sonos setup. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Bagger](https://community.roonlabs.com/letter_avatar/peter_bagger/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Peter\_Bagger](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/Peter_Bagger)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 8:41pm UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/i-don-t-like-1-8-it-feels-like-a-massive-failure/141422/550 "2021-02-11T20:41:57Z")
If Roon 1.8 is a massive failure… I am happy it was not a success… because that would glue me to the stereo forever 🙂 (in my mind it is a success) I will have so many exiting hours ahead of me with Roon, Valance, Focus… Had some startup hickups… but now I am so trilled. Right now diving in to the universe of Antonio Forcione… but who knows where Roon will take me next. ---
**Author:** ![Charles\_Peterson](https://community.roonlabs.com/letter_avatar/charles_peterson/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Charles\_Peterson](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/Charles_Peterson)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 8:42pm UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/i-don-t-like-1-8-it-feels-like-a-massive-failure/141422/551 "2021-02-11T20:42:45Z")
> [@Chrislayeruk](#): > > The complaints started so early, there was never time to explore. My experience with human nature… Yes, but Roon hasn’t made it easy to explore, so therefore the complaints are valid. My experience with human nature… ---
**Author:** ![Ratbert](https://community.roonlabs.com/letter_avatar/ratbert/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Ratbert](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/Ratbert)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 8:43pm UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/i-don-t-like-1-8-it-feels-like-a-massive-failure/141422/553 "2021-02-11T20:43:51Z")
![image](https://roon-community-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/original/3X/0/8/08ab594cec64de3e10718ff16e0804bde611a49c.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Miguel\_Rode](https://community.roonlabs.com/user_avatar/community.roonlabs.com/miguel_rode/32/116755_2.png) [@Miguel\_Rode](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/Miguel_Rode)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 8:46pm UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/i-don-t-like-1-8-it-feels-like-a-massive-failure/141422/554 "2021-02-11T20:46:32Z")
> [@Squeezemenicely](#): > > I personally would be so over the moon happy, if a simple search of a Work/album title plus artist actually would show all the albums with said artists in my collection. But it does not - This sort of thing works in the most primitive databases, but not in Roon. I really thought they would have fixed this (as promissed) but they have not. Hey Dom, can you provide an example of such a search that doesn’t work? Somehow capture screenshots so we can compare? I’m usually able to find stuff quite well when searching by performer name, composer, a piece of the work title (like “piano concerto”) etc. My collection is about 3K albums and, granted, I do a lot of manual tag grooming. BTW I think that the presentation of search results is MUCH nicer in 1.8 than it was in 1.7… visually speaking. ---
**Author:** ![MiWa](https://community.roonlabs.com/letter_avatar/miwa/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@MiWa](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/MiWa)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 8:51pm UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/i-don-t-like-1-8-it-feels-like-a-massive-failure/141422/555 "2021-02-11T20:51:19Z")
Yes, same problems. Sometimes drop outs. Sometimes music stops. ---
**Author:** ![Chrislayeruk](https://community.roonlabs.com/user_avatar/community.roonlabs.com/chrislayeruk/32/47983_2.png) [@Chrislayeruk](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/Chrislayeruk)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 8:51pm UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/i-don-t-like-1-8-it-feels-like-a-massive-failure/141422/556 "2021-02-11T20:51:32Z")
Antonio appeared in some great comedy sketch shows on BBC Radio 4 in the past… A great musician [![](https://i.imgur.com/JS6DODl.png) ](https://i.imgur.com/JS6DODl.png) A great album you just reminded me of and very quickly found and shared in 1.8 Brilliant ---
**Author:** ![Frank\_DeMello](https://community.roonlabs.com/letter_avatar/frank_demello/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Frank\_DeMello](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/Frank_DeMello)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 8:52pm UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/i-don-t-like-1-8-it-feels-like-a-massive-failure/141422/557 "2021-02-11T20:52:11Z")
Does anyone know where the Heart button is hidden? I have complained for 3 years it was buggy. Was it removed? ---
**Author:** ![Dolf\_Daam](https://community.roonlabs.com/letter_avatar/dolf_daam/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Dolf\_Daam](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/Dolf_Daam)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 8:57pm UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/i-don-t-like-1-8-it-feels-like-a-massive-failure/141422/558 "2021-02-11T20:57:34Z")
I feel devastated by this “upgrade” I can no longer suffle though my ENTIRE library tracks which was my 98% use of Roon. I loved Roon 1.7. 1.8 is a disaster for me, not usable, I don’t know what to do. ---
**Author:** ![Frank\_DeMello](https://community.roonlabs.com/letter_avatar/frank_demello/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Frank\_DeMello](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/Frank_DeMello)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 8:58pm UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/i-don-t-like-1-8-it-feels-like-a-massive-failure/141422/559 "2021-02-11T20:58:49Z")
I have had that since last June. Still trying to figure it out ---
**Author:** ![bobbmd](https://community.roonlabs.com/letter_avatar/bobbmd/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@bobbmd](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/bobbmd)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 9:01pm UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/i-don-t-like-1-8-it-feels-like-a-massive-failure/141422/561 "2021-02-11T21:01:39Z")
First this not a failure personally I sort of like it and plan to spend countless hours exploring ‘stuff’ I never bothered with before. BUT… where are my purple colors my background is all white?? AND… unlike Ver 1.7 everything downloaded and installed because I was smart enough to delete both remotes on my iPad and iphone then reinstalled them but I personally don’t understand why people use ‘devices’ anyway—where can you utilize ROON anywhere but near your CORE and don’t you need a DAC AMP and really good speakers to enjoy TIDAL Qobuz or your own library. NICE JOB GUYS AND GALS @ ROON bobbmd ---
**Author:** ![Sander\_Zwier](https://community.roonlabs.com/user_avatar/community.roonlabs.com/sander_zwier/32/62976_2.png) [@Sander\_Zwier](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/Sander_Zwier)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 9:04pm UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/i-don-t-like-1-8-it-feels-like-a-massive-failure/141422/562 "2021-02-11T21:04:39Z")
Maybe I don’t understand, but if I go to the “tracks” view I can still hit the little arrow besides the “Play now” button and hit shuffle from there. [Previous page](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/i-don-t-like-1-8-it-feels-like-a-massive-failure/141422.md?page=25) [Next page](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/i-don-t-like-1-8-it-feels-like-a-massive-failure/141422.md?page=27)