Impossible to change track titles

Support Metadata
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I have imported a 3 disc album of which some tracks are showed with a track title that is not from my file, not from Roon and can not be changed.
The track title shown is:
No. 3, Dank, König, dir
The track title on the edit page as Roon’s title:
Lohengrin: Act 1: Dank, Königm die, dass du zu richten kamst!
The track title on the edit page as my file’s title:
Lohengrin, opera, WWV 75: Act 1: Dank, Königm die dass du zu richten kamst!
My manual change is:
Lohengrin: Act 1: Dank, König, dir, dass du zu richten kamst!
The shown track title can not be changed!

Pieter dVR

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Have you set the track’s metadata Preference to prefer file data?

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I have tried to do that too, but it doesn’t hold this choice after Save.

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In fact thera are two questions: @support

  1. Where does this shown track title come from?
  2. Why can’t I change the track title?
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Screen shots please.

I have a suspicion.

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Title of the file:
03 John Van Halteren - Lohengrin, opera, WWV 75; Act 1; Dank, König, dir, daß du zu richten kamst!
Screen shot player window:

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Screen shot edit window:
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Pieter

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Screen shot files:

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  1. It comes as a consequence of Roon IDing an album. To revert to file data only, un-ID the album, I.e., click “nothing seems right”.
  2. You can change the title of a track, but leave the album unIDed. As I understand it.
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Also, I suspect having `two semicolons or colons in the tracktitle may be mucking things up. Try changing the second one to a period.

Note that,Roon only has one indenting.

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All tracks have the same format of titles. It doesn’t explain why some titles are right and others are wrong.

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Hope you get it figured out.

If this is a Tidal album, pass along the title and conductor. I may take a crack at it.

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It is a 3 cd set of Lohengrin by Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra directed by Mark Elder.

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To be sure, something funny is going on here, but I don’t think this is a reason. I have never had problems changing the title of a track on an ID’d album

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I have no problems with tracks of other CD’s either.

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@kevin
The three CD’s have in their directories a somewhat different format.
The second CD’s format is:

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The third CD’s format is:
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Perhaps that ccould be a reason for this behavior?

Pieter

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I dont know how, but could the permissions of the folders have been set up differently? Could CD3 be read only for Roon user?

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@BrianW
The difference between the formats of the three discs came from dBpoweramp. I did the rip of the three CD’s and they resulted in these three sets of files. I copied the files to my NAS.
Pieter

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That was a rubbish suggestion from me anyway; Roon never alters the original file, only the database.

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That comes from Roon’s metadata of the composition. If you edit,goto composition that’s what is shown.
You should still be able to override this however

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Ok, I give up. I’ve just imported Kempe’s Lohengrin from Tidal, and I get exactly the same problem as @pieterdvr

Unless I disable multi-part composition grouping, I cannot rename a track. (And by the way, I get track 3 as
Lohengrin: Act 1. Scene 1. Danke, König, dir, daß du zu richten kamst! )

Roon knows best?