Inconsistent album listing by Composer in Library (ref#DCNR7O)

[Jacques_Distler]

Go to the page for a composer (for example, search for Dmitri Shostakovich).

Under “Overview”, Roon lists 25 albums in my Library by that composer.

Click on “Discography” and then click on the icon, and Roon lists 18 albums by that composer in my Library.

Now go to “Albums → Focus → Composer” and select Dmitri Shostakovich. Roon lists 27 albums in my Library.

Why do these three methods yield different results?

It’s, of course, not limited to this particular composer.

• Pick “Kalevi Aho”, and the three methods yield, respectively: 2, 2 and 5 albums.
• Pick “Ludwig Van Beethoven” and the three methods yield, respectively: 48, 40 and 48 albums.

It’s all wildly inconsistent.

[alex_h (Alex)]

Good day @Jacques_Distler !

I hope you’re doing well today .

Thanks for sharing your question here.

I have just tried to reproduce this issue on my side and the behavior described by you was not reproduced.

But in general this behavior might happen because Roon treats “Composer” views differently from album filters and each view has its own logic and metadata filter.

Here is why it could happen to you:

1. “Overview”, “Discography” and “Composer” use separate metadata filters.
2. Some albums may have the composer missing or named slightly differently in tags.
3. Unidentified or duplicate albums - box sets compilations or unidentified releases can be counted differently.

If you wish we can check your database specifically for this matter.

For this please:

• Collect and archive your database ( https://help.roonlabs.com/portal/en/kb/articles/database-location#Windows )
• upload it here: https://workdrive.zohoexternal.com/collection/gnhz54df9ddffa33d49a3be8619bd6376a5de/external
• Let us know once done so we can review it.

  Looking forward to your reply!

  Regards.

[Jacques_Distler]

Travelling at the moment, so can’t access my database to that end.

What would be helpful would be to know what metadata are used in these three different views to determine the Composer.

One thing I discovered is that some albums were mis-identified, as part of compilations (as opposed to the original individual albums assembled into the compilation). So the “Credits” for the album had entries for everyone (including composers) involved in any of the albums in the compilation.

That was an easy fix.

But it certainly doesn’t fix all of the discrepancies.

Some of my albums with Kalevi Aho as composer:

don’t show up (under either “Overview” or “Discography→ ” ), even when I add the Qobuz version to my Library.

Which is nuts, since the Qobuz version does show up under “Discography”. So why should clicking on make it disappear?

[Jacques_Distler]

To drive the point home, here’s another album on Qobuz:

which shows up under “Discography”. But if you add it to your library, it doesn’t show up under “Discography→”.

How is that not a bug?

[Geoff_Coupe]

You are correct in that there is something odd going on here.

I have just added the Kalevi Aho Symphony No. 12 album from Qobuz to my library as well, and I can confirm that while it remains listed in the Composer’s Discography - it is not showing as added to my library there:

However, it is showing up as added to my library in the Chamber Orchestra of Lapland’s discography:

And in the Lahti Symphony Orchestra’s Discography:

And in John Storgård’s Discography:

So, to summarise, it shows up correctly in Artist Discographies, but not in the Composer discography.

I seem to recall that this has been reported before, a long time ago. I’ll do some digging.

[Jacques_Distler]

Here’s another example from Qobuz:

(2000)

Appears under “Discography”. But, if you add it to your Library, it does not appear under “Discography→”

I could go on, but I hope it’s clear that something’s very messed-up, and it’s not the file metadata…

[Geoff_Coupe]

Have you uploaded your database as @alex_h requested, so that Roon Labs can investigate this issue in detail further?

[Jacques_Distler]

Yes.

Though I am dubious of the relevance.

Yes, the bug also applies to local files (which might have bad metadata, that one could only determine by examining the database). But you were able to reproduce it with albums from Qobuz, which present no such issue.

[Geoff_Coupe]

The Qobuz albums are in your library, which is in the Roon database - so if there’s a bug it likely applies to both local and streamed albums. Which is why it would be useful to Roon Labs to investigate the database.

[benjamin]

Thanks for the additional information and database @Jacques_Distler! And thank you for the additional clarity @Geoff_Coupe - we’ve shared the report with our QA team for in-house reproduction.

We’ll follow-up as soon as we get more information to share. Thanks for your ongoing patience here!