Inconsistent Sonos Performance with Roon (ref#QEXQ2T)

What’s happening?

· Something else

How can we help?

· I am experiencing freezes or crashes

Describe the issue

Using Roon with Sonos does not work consistently. Speakers regularly drop off. Speakers will drop off and come back randomly. I have tried wired and wireless Sonos configurations. I have used Sonos for at least 15 years and it has been reliable until around 6 months ago when used with Roon. I am aware they are having major software issues. In short, Roon and Sonos is very unreliable. Roon with my Blusound Node 2i is solid. Some additional, less serious issues. If I watch TV which is connected to a Sonos Beam, the volume remains on TV setting vice using Roon setting after turning off the TV and going back to Roon music. This can be fixed by clicking on the volume in Roon, but this would be nice to fix. The Roon speaker volume setting shows correctly, but it is actually the last TV level that actually plays. Sonos alarm speaker grouping is affected if you use Roon. The speakers show up and look fine, but typically only one of three speakers will work and which one appears to be random.

Describe your network setup

I have an Orbi mesh network. It has been solid and I have a high speed connection. The Sonos - Roon combination is the problem. I have Roon server on an iMac Intel I9 with lots of RAM. For Sonos I have a Beam with two Play 3 speakers as surrounds and a Sonos subwoofer. I have a three Play 1's and a Move. (I typically don't use the Move because it makes connections even worse.)

I started having a similar issue when I bought an Orbi system about 5 years ago.
The problem for me was that Sonos created its own Mesh network and would try and route traffic through it and not the Orbi causing constant music playback failure. This was made worse by the fact that most of my Sonos devices were wireless B and N so had limited bandwidth.

The solution for me (that I have documented on this forum a number of times) was as follows.

Only plug one device into Ethernet as close to the Roon server switch as s possible. In my case I had a Sonos Boost in storage so that was the perfect choice, but could easily be any more modern device that supports more modern WiFi.

Reduce playback of Audio to 16/44.1 in the advanced settings of the devices. It’s not like it makes them sound any worse at all.

Give away some of my older devices with poor network performance and buy some Roon Ready solutions.

In short, I find the newer devices like the Move and Roam seem to work well, but the older devices have very old network technology and do not play nicely with a Mesh network.

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Hi @jnoelwill,

Thank you for the report. Please describe the following in as much detail as possible to expedite our investigation:

  1. Are the Orbi mesh nodes in AP (access point) mode?

  2. Do you have any additional networking hardware in this setup, like second routers or switches?

  3. Where is your RoonServer machine connecting to the internet? Is it hardwired to the main router, or a mesh node/access point/switch? What about the Sonos device? Please provide an overview of the network topology involved.

In the meantime, please try the test suggested above my @Michael_Harris.

Verify that “Disable IGMP Proxying” is unchecked in the Orbi router settings. Verify that Multicast forwarding and IGMP snooping are enabled.

Concerning Airplay, verify in Device Setup for the Airplay zones that Compatibility Mode is toggled on.

If none of this helps, please provide an approximate timestamp of the next Sonos device network dropoff, and we’ll re-investigate logs.

We’ll proceed from there. Thanks!

Connor,
The Orbi router is set to AP mode. The satellites do not show that option

I have a switch that connects to my router and has an Apple Airport and Node 2i connected. No problems with this.

My Roon server is on my iMac connected direct to router

I have no problems with Node 2i. I have problems with Roon dropping out on Sonos.

I unchecked “Disable IGMP Proxying” but turned it back on because dropouts increased

Device setup for airplay zones is in Compatibility mode (greyed out- the check is for “no.”

I went through all menus and did not see Multicast forwarding or IGMP snooping as options

I’m pretty sure these issues are connected to Sonos software updates that are defective.

It’s been months.

On Roon’s end, I think the volume control and Sonos Alarm grouping problems are due to some software glitches. These are not as significant as the dropouts.

This evening we have mostly been experiencing the music just stopping and we have to click play to get it going again. There have been a few times where various speakers come and go.

Thanks,

Hey @jnoelwill,

Thanks for sharing your update. It’s unclear if you were also able to give @Michael_Harris’s suggestion above a try?

If you get a sonos device hardwired, close to your server and set playback to 16/44.1, do you still experience issues?