Intermittent Download Sync Issue in Roon ARC with Smart Playlists (ref#1110BT) [Ticket in]

What’s happening?

· I'm having trouble with Roon ARC

What best describes your issue with ARC

· Other

How can we help?

· None of the above

Other options

· Other

Describe the issue

I am using roon arc ios app to download a smart playlist. When new songs are added to that playlist, roon arc shows them as downloaded even if they are not. I can verify that when playing them they stream for the server. They also appear as unavailable in offline mode (either app offline mode or ios airplane mode).

This does not happen consistently, but I think it happens more consistently if the changes to the smart playlist do not happen in ARC. Sometimes, ARC actually downloads the new songs, sometimes it doesn't. Making changes to the smart playlist in roon arc app seems to trigger the download of missing tracks.

Describe your network setup

Unifi router forwarding roon arc port. Roon installed in a custom linux box with direct wired access to the router.

Good day @Alex_Cepoi !

Do you have a guaranteed way to reproduce the issue ?

If so, could you please record the video and share it to us with time stamps ?

On our side after multiple attempts issue was not reproduced.

Looking forward to your reply!

Regards.

Hi @Alex_Cepoi,

We’ve attempted to pinpoint a failing download event in diagnostics - we do see timeouts logged within the ARC framework when it attempts to ping the server for unrelated background functions. However, we’re not seeing Smart Downloads failing or occurring at all within the logged period, likely because we’ve not simply failed to capture the events you’re describing within the timeframe.

Can you please approximate the time/date when you last made changes to Smart Playlists that should have pushed through to ARC and didn’t? We want to validate whether the phone is downloading the tracks at all, or if these requests fail on the server side.

Thanks for your report. We’ll watch for your response.

No way to reliably reproduce this I’m afraid, though I did come across this issue maybe 3-4 times in the last 2 months.

Note this isn’t smart downloads per se, but rather regular download of a smart playlist. Seems to work most of the time though.

Looks like I’ve added tracks to it on 28th of Sep / 29th of Sep and 4th of October and I do remember one such incident with those ones.

Will definitely update this thread next time ai get a repeat in case that’s not enough info to go on.

Hi @Alex_Cepoi !

Thanks for confirming!

But we’d need a more precise timestamps for investigating.

Just let us know the exact time when you bump into it again.

Regards.

So this reoccurred again on 19th of October at 17:51 (London Time). One of the smart playlists had new tracks which appeared downloaded in in arc, but then showed up as unavailable when switching the device to airplane mode.

When I triggered a change to the smart playlist they all started downloading again.

Let me know if there’s any other kind of info I can provide.

Hello @Alex_Cepoi,

Thank you for the update. We’ll review the diagnostic data together with our R&D and QA teams and will follow up here once we have updates or next steps to share.

Hey @Alex_Cepoi

Thanks for performing that test, we have added this info to the investigation ticket. The ticket has been submitted for developer review, meaning that this may take some time to be reviewed.

There aren’t any additional details needed at this time, so we will go ahead and close the thread for the time being, and if any other questions arise after the developers have reviewed the case, we will re-open the thread and reach out once more.

Thanks again for your report, and thank you in advance for your patience as the ticket progresses through the development queue for review.

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