Is ARC that bad that it needs to soak up all the development effort of Roon Labs?

I probably should test it out. Arc and Qobuz is great very similar to Apple Music with CarPlay functionality.

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For whatever it is worth, ARC has become my only reason to have Roon, which has correctly identified much less than 50% of my library and has provided actually useful information for maybe half the albums that it’s identified. My use case is pretty limited, though: I only use it when at a gym, whether in town or on the road, because I can stream over wifi and avoid cellular data charges at any gym I ever have used.

Streaming my own collection is important to me. My collection is hoarder-sized (around 30k albums) and a large percentage of it isn’t available on Qobuz or Tidal, so the only streaming services I use are the free version of Spotify, when I need to hear something for a minute before deciding to acquire it, and Sirius, because I own only vehicles that predate CarPlay.

I also have a cell data limit that makes non-wifi streaming prohibitive.

I had to set up port forwarding to get things up and running (Comcast Xfinity, using that company’s router), but ARC’s been trouble-free for the year I have been using it. It doesn’t burp handling my immense library and can play a playlist with many hundreds of titles in shuffle mode without so much as a stutter.

So, speaking selfishly, Roon’s value to me is tied up in ARC. If that feature ever backslides, I don’t get enough more from Roon than I do from JRiver or Audirvāna Origin that it would remain cost-effective for me. (I recently configured JRiver’s WAN access capability and can confirm that it also works for my use case, but I prefer the ARC app to JRemote.)

ARC is a very important part of Roon and future development. Just wish it exsist an web player version of it i could expose to the internet so i could listen to it at work.

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Very love hate depending on your needs

As someone who uses ARC I really hope it isn’t the result of focused work. :slight_smile:

I mean, it struggles to resume playback. If my server goes down, it doesn’t move to offline mode on it’s own, or just play the downloaded playlist without me moving to offline mode (which isn’t super clear in the UI).

There’s no iOS shortcuts support to say, start playing X playlist whenever carplay is activated, etc.

I moved to Roon for ARC (98% of my usecase) and as much as I enjoy not relying Apple’s app, ARC tests my resolve sometimes.

HUGE THANK YOU FOR THIS!!!

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310k tracks, 6.1k album library (obviously, I’m a DJ right? :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: ) and ARC has never worked for me. PlexAmp works great in my vehicle and since the Roon Remote app has started to hang all the time Plex remotely controlled with Home Assistant has been getting more use at home than Roon. Ironically, I have two lifetime subscriptions that I bought before each company got bought out and neither of them work great at what they were supposed to do.

I totally agree with this!

I totally agree that development of ARC has had enough resources, and there are lots of glitches with ROON that need the attention of the research and development team

Sorry, but I strongly disagree.

There is still no

  • possibility of Google Casting on iPhones or AirPlay on Android
  • Live Radio in ARC (was promised years ago)
  • landscape mode in ARC.

Until then, ARC will remain incomplete for me …

The developers for ARC are most likely completely different team with different skills anyway, and to play these resources off against each other makes little sense.

Dont forget ARC SD card access for the DAP users.

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I don’t think most users care about the development or corporate structures, just the product functionality. And really that’s all they should be concerned about.

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Anyone who knows anything about software development knows that you can’t just assign app devs to server development or whatever. It takes years to learn the respective skills and become familiar with the code base, and just adding more bodies doesn’t speed up things.

And luckily single users don’t get to decide what to spend time on, either.

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All fantastic, if you think this person wants a corporate restructuring and not that he just wants the product to function as advertised. Im not sure that’s what they’re after though lol.

The point was about making the devs stop ARC development and instead fixing other things that are unrelated to the devs who work on ARC.

Do you think that may have been hyperbolic? That’s what I’m trying to tell you. This guy isn’t after an actual restructuring, he’s airing out his frustrations at the lack of functionality. That’s why I think it’s silly to say “well achskually it doesn’t work that way”.

He made a proposal for how Roon should handle things, which makes no sense. What was proposed would not make the other issues better (in foreseeable time), so demanding that ARC development is stopped only hurts ARC users without helping with the other issues.

Obviously it’s perfectly fine to say that other existing issues should be fixed.

I think you’re putting too much focus on the “proposal” and are missing the point. Users are frustrated with the lack of roon functionality.

I replied to a specific point someone made. I can’t reply to points not made, nor is it very useful to invent things they might have wanted to make. What’s wrong with taking grown-ups by their word?

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