Hi, I just started the 14-day trial. Downloaded app.
Installed to my Win10PC and told install that this was to be my Roon server (it has my music library locally installed).
The install process asked me about Tidal, I logged into it, thinking it means to deal with my Tidal account somehow.
Roon also asked where I keep my music files, I selected the folder that has my library.
The Roon window in what looks like a browser-like window keeps disappearing ever since.
I try to restart the Roon executable the install placed on my desktop. I get a Roon window asking where my music library is, but it doesnāt last long, in about 7 seconds that Roon window just disappears. If I start it back up I get the same result.
I assume itās scanning my music folder. Would it be locking up trying? Every time I try to run the Roon desktop icon it only stays up for a few seconds and disappears.
What am I doing wrong?
Nothing else is happening. I rebooted and still same.
When run the Roon.exe, I get a Roon window (looks like a min-browser) and it looks like it wants me to direct Roon to my music library folder on Windows. But in <10-seconds it just disappears, window is gone with no error message.
Is there any way to ask questions here? Iām completely new. It seems like an interesting service. It looks like itās trying to walk me through setup, but it ends abruptly.
I tried to install Roon Core to my Win10 PC. Iām a first time user, Iāve got audio hardware that says itās Roon Ready so I wanted to test this one first, since I need something to bring order to my music library.
The downloaded file was RoonInstaller64.exe
After completing the download unpack/install process, I got to a Roon window where I selected āSet up a Roon Core on this PCā because it has my music library locally installed.
After pointing the setup window to my music library folder the Roon window disappeared. This kept happening over and over whenever I tried to restart the Roon.exe shortcut on my desktop. Iād see the Roon window with the path to my music library set, which was the last action I was able to perform in the software, then in about 5 or 7 seconds the Roon software window would just disappear. No error messages, just gone.
I even uninstalled and reinstalled from scratch and Iād get to the same point and it would happen again, disappearing Roon window with my library location set.
So, I uninstalled and unsubscribed from Roon, reasoning I donāt want to use up time on the 14-day trial waiting for help. But this is getting quick responses which is great!
Can I restart my 14-day trial again? There is no option to restart it, I can only subscribe directly if I want to try it now.
Iād still like to test out Roon if I can use a trial.
That looks like the correct installation file to me, so as far as I can see youāre not doing anything āwrongā.
Roon does have some (perhaps unexpected) graphics dependencies, so itās worth checking that you have the latest drivers installed, in particular the OpenGL bits. Thatās not always what W10 update finds - you might have to go to the graphics manufacturerās site.
If that doesnāt work, Roon Support āproperā will want to know what spec your PC is, OS version, graphics card, etc. so that they can help you. Theyāll be along shortly!
Oh, thatās interesting you mention the graphics dependencies.
Iāve got some silly Nvidia gaming app installed, it was just part of the driver install when I got this card, not too up-to-date but has a practical GPU that may have actually been āgoodā about five years ago. The tool informs me of updates and what not, with a lot of extra stuff I donāt use. I didnāt mention it in the trouble descriptions because I didnāt think it was relevant, but I am noticing that the Nvidia gaming toolās logo pops up when the Roon software crashes/disappears.
Iāll double check it to see if it was trying to inform me of a graphics driver error or something. Iāll ensure I have an up-to-date driver and will probably just uninstall that Nvidia tool too. I donāt generally care for PC tools that try to do things for me when I donāt tell it to.
Thanks for the help, that really gives me some next steps to try.
The most recent Win10 update seem to play games with video drivers !!
There have been reports on NVidia cards on the forum. Getting the latest NVidia driver is a good start. Install it then reboot everything in sequence , network first then PC core . Let each step finish before starting the next one .
Depending on how big your library is, Roon will take a while to load and then to analyse it
If you go to Settings> Library > Background audio analysis speed and set it to Throttled that will release most of your processing power. Before you go to bed set it to max and let it go overnight
You will see a rotating circle in the top R while Roon is working and you will see metrics in the settings window
PS is your C Drive an SSD or a spinning HDD ? Roon is fairly demanding on the SSD requirement
Thanks for the instruction. I figured the initial library scan/build by Roon would take a long time and hog resources so I tried to do it last overnight, Iāll try again tonight. While I get most of what you said, what does this part mean?:
ānetwork first then PC coreā
By network, is there a portion of the Roon install called Network, as opposed to Core? Or do you just mean I need to be attached to my network?
I thought installing Core would be my first step, as I assume itās the server that will provide info to all the other Roon capable components on my network. I thought Iād worry about actual players later. TBH, I donāt really plan on using the server to playback music, at least not very often. My real use for it is a device in my bedroom with my headphone amplifier setup that includes a media streamer box that just got an update recent from the manufacturer that makes it Roon-able. Iām not sure if that means Roon Ready, or if itās now a āRoon End Pointā, or if those terms are interchangeable.
But Iām hoping to be able to send playback commands through my local network, to the media streamer from a Win10 laptop or phone running a Roon client. I envision it being similar to UpNP that I am already using to do this.
At least that the vision I have in my head as to how it will go down, I realize Iām in for a learning curve. But I assume the first step is to get the Roon server/Core setup first, if I understand correctly.
Oh, my server PC has an SSD HDD for the OS and thatās where Iād like to install Roon. Unfortunately my music library is on a mechanical drive in the same computer. Itās been assigned a drive letter so I didnāt think Roon would have any problem finding my Music Backup folder on that drive. Itās a giant folder though, but shouldnāt be too bad. It might be creeping up above half a TB.
Sorry not clear , I meant restart your internet/home network. Turn everything off , then start your modem , wait until itās finished then start your Router wait until the internet light shows a connection.
Only then restart your Core PC to ensure that you can see the Roon Cloud services.
Roon will have installed by default onto your C drive , the Roon library will be there too, a Spinning HDD for your music files is fine, itās the library SSD thatās demanding
Also might be worth sharing your PC spec to see if it meets minimum requirements
0.5 TB is a small library , in Roon terms , someone the other day was mentioning 14 tb, mine is teetering to the 4tb number. Roon has no trouble with libraries of this size other than the initial analysis step. Your 0.5 shouldnāt take too long
PS change the driver before the restart if you are going to.
Iāll look for a step where I can tell Roon where to store its files and db, because now that I think of it, the SSD is partitioned into two drives. C: contains the OS and not much else, the alt drive letter has most of the space on my 1TB SSD. I should probably ensure Roon installs its db and files on the secondary drive letter. The extra drive is a 2TB that only keeps a backup of my music collection and a few old movies.
Basic PC specs: CPU is Intel i5 7600, 3.5GHz. 16GB RAM across two sticks of whatever memory was compatible and considered fast for gaming purposes about two/three years ago (that was my last upgrade). Graphics card is an nVidia, GTX 1050Ti 4GB vram. Itās served me well for about five years now, so itās a bit behind. I wouldnāt have thought that my PC specs would be a problem, but maybe Iām just scraping by. Time flies and my 'puter is getting older, just like me.
Iām pretty sure my music library is around 600GB. I dumped a lot of older quality files not long ago that got it way below 1TB. Iāve been collecting 16/44 and hi-res music files, mostly FLAC, I donāt use any DSD. Good to know thatās considered small. Iāve tried to use older programs that claimed to be able to do some of Roon basic functions, but without Roonās extra features, but theyād always choke on my collection library. I figured itās time to try one of these again, I think the technology has caught up with the need. Roon seems pretty cool.
The GTX 1050Ti has the required OpenGL support, but itās still worth checking the drivers. Iāve seen some people have problems with multiple monitor setups too. Are you running such a setup?
I donāt think there is an option to put the database anywhere than the boot drive - if space is really tight, this might be the problemā¦
Do you have another pc you could try? Itās possible - with care - to migrate the core (and database) to another machine later.
Iāve already updated the drivers today since Iām working from home now. But most of this work is going to have to happen later tonight. I donāt have anything installed right now, since it was crashing on me uninstalled. But Iāll give it another try tonight with these instructions.
Does the Roon storage space requirements roughly correspond to the size of your library? I could clear out some space if needed, but Iām sure my C: drive has at least 300GB, I think I may even have a game or two on it that I can just remove.
Does the OpenGL support just come video card and regular drivers? I recall OpenGL back in the Quake days, I think we needed to install it separately. But I guess itās become a bit more mainstream since those days so thereās a good chance itās just supported by the hardware.
The only other PC I have is a Surface laptop, itās newer than my main PC so it may have a more powerful CPU but I donāt think it has much space. I actually wanted to use the Surface to run whatever client-side software Roon uses for exploring the music while it plays back on my media streamer audio component. But, obviously I donāt really know how this works in practice.
Are you trying to install Roon on the same drive you are trying to use as your Roon āwatchedā drive with your music files? That might be the problem.
You guys are awesome! If Iād known there was so much community support with this I would have tried this earlier.
@Jim_F
āAre you trying to install Roon on the same drive you are trying to use as your Roon āwatchedā drive with your music files? That might be the problem.ā
Iām a fresh out of the womb noob that hasnāt even installed the first component of this software yet. The .exe seems to walk you through setting up the Core first, so I was putting on that on my main local storage computer.
I (sort-of) assume the Roon system works on a client/server relationship with clients being either āplayersā or āstream directorsā, I donāt really know Watched is, but I think maybe the main music library directory, so this would be on what Roon calls the Core?
Core was the first thing I was trying to install. Iāve got a few things to try. Iām sure Iāll catch on once I get the initial software install working. But I have no idea how Roon works yet.
, I meant restart your internet/home network. Turn everything off , then start your modem , wait until itās finished then start your Router wait until the internet light shows a connection.
, in Roon terms , someone the other day was mentioning 14 tb, mine is teetering to the 4tb number. Roon has no trouble with libraries of this size other than the initial analysis step. Your 0.5 shouldnāt take too long