While I’m thrilled that the Roon Community encourages all of us to keep an open mind, I’m also very dismayed that keeping a critical mind is very much discouraged. Now I fully understand why audiophiles are not taken seriously by anyone outside the hobby.
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One assumes you are referring to your very recent Network Switch thread that was closed down by the moderator team?
I think we all know just how those types of threads end by now and tbh it has already been discussed to death by all semi interested parties.
I do not believe there is anything new that can be garnered from this type of discussion and it was closed early to save the debacle it would surely devolve into.
While Roon Labs actively encourages healthy discussion revolving around a wide variety of topics and subjects, enough is really enough on some topics.
As has been proven numerous times.
Thank you for your patience and understanding.
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While I fully understand what is going on and the very sound reason for closing out my recent thread before things spiraled out of control, I’m still a bit disappointed.
A while back, during one of those pointless anti-audiophile voodoo threads I thought to myself that the Roon Community, being about things audio, is going to eventually go the way that the Head-Fi.org Forums has gone. What happened over there is similar to what is happening in this community - two camps have formed the voodoo camp and anti-voodoo camp. And in order to keep things civil there are now two separate sub-forums for these types of discussions:
Cables, Power, Tweaks, Speakers, Accessories (DBT-Free Forum) - the anything goes area, where science is MIA
Sound Science - where one is allowed to call BS on the ideas expressed in the other area.
Perhaps something similar can be arranged on this community so that at least those of us not drinking the kool-aid can counter some of the more outrageous claims made by the kool-aid drinkers.
I just don’t like the idea of adding “science” to the list of “off limits” topics (politics, religion, sex, to name a few - all of which I fully agree with being off limits on an audio centered forum).
Thanks for your consideration.
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One might argue that a core part of any hobby is bonding by mocking those nitwits who just don’t get “it”, whatever “it” may be. Even more fun if there are sub-communities who can mock each other!
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While I generally agree, there is that commercial implication – audiophiles are a good chunk of Roon’s target audience, and as much as anyone who know jack about physics knows that a $600 fuse does nothing for sound quality, mocking people who do believe that in a Roon-sanctioned forum probably isn’t the best strategy for Roon itself…
Long experience and much research in social psychology show that beliefs come before arguments. I recommend The Enigma of Reason for the scientific evidence. Arguments trying to change firm beliefs are almost certain to devolve into acrimony unless they are organized and moderated very carefully, which does not seem to be possible in this medium. Life is too short.
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If beliefs come before arguments then perhaps it’s a good idea to make sure that the unbelievable doesn’t become the belief?
In case of audiophiles, before digital audio was introduced everything was analog and had a well ingrained belief system evolved around all thing analog. Audiophiles knew nothing about digital audio. The high end audio industry has worked very hard to build a profitable belief system around digital audio and they blur the lines between things analog and things digital. Once someone believes that something that might be true in the analog domain but is patently untrue in the digital domain is “true”, well then the battle is lost.
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Would love to see a separate forum for support - or a ticket system. Of the many times that have gotten involved in threads around controversial subjects, I am here looking for technical info then notice things discussed that I cannot ignore. Most Roon users are in the wrong end of the audiophile spectrum and it is hard to let it go, as it can be very triggering.
So please, ticketing system and support only forum, ala JRiver. People that want noiseless info can go there.
Another request, make the flagging system so only the moderators can hide posts. [moderated] Please let a flag be only a way to queue a post for moderator review, instead of letting the mob clobber reasonable thought.
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You can mute any and all forum categories that you do not want to see.
This is currently the case I believe. Flagged posts are dealt with by forum moderators as required.
Thanks for the reply
1.- Sure that works but then again, not exactly my point - sometimes you want to engage in discussions. I am saying that separating tech from opinions would do wonders. But mostly a ticket system. The one time I had an actual issue there was no way to track, I don’t think I ever got actual help.
2.- Flagging a post immediately hides it, encouraging mob mentality. True that obviously only moderators can delete a post.
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Add to that a serious case of the Dunning-Krueger, so more often than not they confuse people disagreeing with their opinion with violations of the community guidelines. Someone has to train them; they are not the same.
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Forgot to ask, what exactly is ‘coo-coo’ supposed to mean? Never heard it used before.
AJ
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@vmartell, anyone in the forum can flag a post for moderation, and depending on the reason, the post is hidden. If the moderator team agree with a flag the post may remain hidden, be deleted, or the infringement removed.
Moderators do not remove content simply because they or a community member disagrees with the content of a post.
Infringing the community guidelines—link below—is likely to result in moderation. Indeed, your posts do not adhere to the guidelines: neither name calling nor ad hominem attacks are acceptable, and suggesting anyone is a foolish believer is unwelcome.
Please review what you have written, and amend accordingly.
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onomatopoeia ! trying to be cute I guess ! 
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One comment/question - and is related that support and discussion are lumped in here. Has anyone ever been banned? My guess is that no, give that these forums are the only means of support for paying customers, banning users is a no-no, right? one more argument for my suggestion! Thinking it doesn’t affect me as much as I am annoying right now,I am not the worse IMHO. 
Like Elsa said I will let it go - won’t be back until I have an issue. Enjoy discussing sound differences between releases! 
Many people have been banned permanently. Look around, you will see the vestiges of their forum accounts.
AJ
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Persistently argumentative users that consume a lot of Moderator time do get banned. They usually make it onto my ‘ignored’ list way before that.
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Indeed they do. Suspensions for 3 months or so are not all that uncommon. Permanent bans are rarer, however, they are issued for persistently undesirable behaviour and paying no heed to warnings.
I’ve only ever ignored a handful of users, and they have nearly all ended up with suspensions or permanent bans.