I know this was asked before almost two years ago but I’m curious to find which of my many obscure albums are ‘precious’, having no streaming version (Qobuz) in my case, so if the rip and backup ever get lost the music would go too (yes, I know this is a changing list as Qobuz adds/deletes stuff).
Back two years ago there didn’t seem to be a solution, I wonder if anything has changed in the many Roon updates since then?
Always good to have an extra offsite backup. And another. If it would be an issue to be lost. I probably have about 200 releases that are not on any streaming platform.
Thanks David - not overly worried about my backup strategy but it would be good to know which of the albums really do need extra special care. I’ve probably got all the original CDs still too.
I dunno if there’s any API for Qobuz where I could pass album and artist names and get a check whether it was available or even do an API search into Roon and see if only one version is returned. I can easily generate a list of my library albums and write a bit of python to iterate over it.
To be honest I work on the assumption that streaming music might not exist (or not exist in any useful form) in the future and so my entire local library (4,500 albums ripped to flac across 25 years) is assumed to need “special care” and is backed up in several places. So the stuff I own, I haven’t checked whether it’s on streaming - I only checked the stuff I want to stream. I have no interest in any streaming version of something I own, having chosen the ideal version/mastering etc.
It would be interesting to see which albums in my collection have no “versions” tab (so are not on Qobuz or Tidal in any form) though, yes. Even though this can easily change in any one instance at any time
An aside, but I ALWAYS select the streaming version of something I own - it’s only a pittance but the artists get a tiny bit of royalty payment. And sometimes I get a different mastering which I actually prefer or even a special edition with additional tracks.
But no, if space ever forces me to jettison some of my physical CDs it would be really interesting to know which could be the first to go, safe in the knowledge that even if my backups were ever to disappear then it would likely to be on a streaming platform. And anyway here in the UK it is not legal to keep a backup copy without also retaining the physical media (although I doubt anyone pays that any heed)
It does for me. Using focus I could see the albums that had no available copies on Qobuz (I spot checked a number of them using the Qobuz app to be sure).
Obviously doesn’t tell you if they exist on other streaming services. If you wanted to do that you could actually export the albums to a soundiz export and load that in for Spotify to see how many actually exist on there.
As far as I can tell, it can only show you what you have locally, or what’s in your library for which you didn’t add the Qobuz version to the Roon library, but not what you have locally that doesn’t exist on Qobuz at all.
Focus on Qobuz albums > Focus on Hidden > Tag with “On Streaming”
Focus on Local Storage > Focus on Duplicates > Tag with “On Streaming”
Final focus on tag “On Steaming” > Invert tag.
This left me with 57 albums of my 1883 album library that cannot be found on streaming.
My library has a streaming copy for every album I have where available with always the local library as the primary album. I do not have multiple local copies of albums which would be surfaced in this method as a false positive (I think).
OK, thanks. I suppose the previously missing info, when you had said “using Focus”, was that you are using Focus AND then tag the results to add additional Focus criteria on the tag. Smart. (Haven’t tried it but believe you that it works )
But the Qobuz focus is only going to tag things that are in your library, not that are on the whole of qobuz. This only works because you already added streaming copies of your local albums.
I don’t have qobuz copies of anything that’s in my local library (my qobuz adds are exclusively stuff that I don’t own), so this method would tell you that none of it exists on qobuz, and the question is not whether you’ve added it (which in your case you have) but whether it exists at all
If you just want to see what exists on streaming in general and have no intention of adding anything then I think that’s easier to answer.
Export your library in Roon to a soundiz file and then load that into a free Spotify account. Once it’s complete it will give you a list of albums that didn’t match.
If you want to know if it exists on Qobuz, you can do the same thing although if you don’t want them to be added to your library, you would need a second Qobuz account just for that exercise.