Loss of connection with Nucleus and login issues on iOS app (ref#OSTGRG)

Is Roon Server running?

· Yes, Roon Server is turned on and running.

What do you see on your screen?

· I see something else

When you try to connect, what screen do you see?

· Just the Roon logo

Please try to restart your Roon Server by closing the Roon app in the taskbar or rebooting your Roon Server machine.

· No, the issue remains the same

Please try to restart your network setup by unplugging, waiting 30 seconds and then replugging in your networking gear.

· No, the issue remains the same

Please select how you've connected your Roon Server to the internet

· Roon Server is connected by *WiFi*

Have you checked your firewall settings to ensure that Roon is allowed through?

· Roon still won't connect even after checking this aspect

Have you verified that Roon Server is on the same subnet as your Remotes?

· My Remotes and Server are on the same subnet and I still can't connect

Sometimes the issues can be resolved with a reinstall of your Roon Remote app. Let's try to perform a reinstall and see if it helps.

· I've reinstalled the Roon Remote but it did not help

What is the operating system of your Roon Server host machine?

· *Nucleus*

Select any of the following components that are present in your local network setup

· *Mesh networks*

You mentioned a mesh network in your setup. Certain common mesh networks might require slight reconfiguration to support Roon.

· None of the above

Describe the issue

I lost contact with my Nucleus. The iOS app sees it occasionally, tells me to sign in and tells me I’m already signed in! Then it goes to the loading icon, after which I sometimes get a message saying something’s not right or it tells me the server cannot be found. This goes on in a continuous cycle.

Describe your network setup

I have wireless broadband connected to a TP-Link mesh node directly. In turn, the node is hard-wired to the Nucleus.

Hi @Jon_Baxendale,

Thanks for reaching out to ask us about this issue.

I think the next step here is to enable some diagnostics on your account so our technical staff can get some more insight into what’s going on here.

However, before I enable this feature, I’d like to ask for your help ensuring we gather the right information.

First, can you please reproduce the issue once more and note the time at which the error occurs. Then respond here with that time, and I’ll make sure we review the diagnostics related to that timestamp.

Hi,

This was in the course of two minutes, taken, well, two minutes ago.

I have a feeling that part of the problem possibly lies in that it saw two Roon cores, the other being my MacBook. Having said that, I unauthorised the MacBook (which has never been designated as a core) and the problem continues.

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Oh come on folks! I bought a Nucleus and a lifetime subscription and there’s been nothing from you other than a generic reply.

So, if you can’t or won’t help, I have one question

Can I have my money back, please?

You can ring me on [moderated], if you want. I will ring you back immediately.

However, this level of indifference is making me think you’re happy for the money but not interested in customer service.

Perhaps it’s because I have a lifetime subscription that you seem uninterested. After all, there’s no need to keep me happy.

Ok. It’s been three days since the problem started and two since you responded last.

I want my money back. Roon has cost me 31,000 kroner and I expected better than this.

It’s typical of people like you these days. Once you get the money, you couldn’t give a sh#t about service.

Absolute charlatans.

I’m going to post this as far and as wide as I can. And believe me, I’ll keep posting it.

I hate being taken for as an idiot.

Log into nucleus, reinstall rock, login set as server

It will be taken down

Hey @Jon_Baxendale,

Thanks so much for your patience, and our sincere apologies for the delay in getting back to you. We’re a small team, and while we aim to respond within 24 hours, it can sometimes take a bit longer for a thread to reach the top of our queue. We truly appreciate your understanding and cooperation!

You mention you have a mesh network - we’re seeing some network-related errors from a recent Nucleus diagnostic report. Could you temporarily set up your Nucleus via ethernet to your primary router?

We’re also seeing a potential for your remote devices connected to different subnets within your local network, can you review your router settings > devices list and confirm you don’t have two active subnets?

I’d give your router a reboot as well, if you haven’t already. We’ll be monitoring for your results and reply!

I don’t understand any of this. I have one output from the router. This is connected to the principal mesh node and from there to the Nucleus.

It was all fine until I loaded some tracks from my MacBook through the app to my external HDD. Then it all broke down.

However, I do not understand jargon and do not have the diagnostic mind you seem to expect (this is also why I could never get Arc to work)

You will have to be more explicit.

Addition:

When I am able to get to choose my core, for some reason it gives both my MacBook and the Nucleus. However, the MacBook has never been used as a core.

I have found the problem. Is this a glitch in the software? When I try to upload to the server files stored on my MacBook, Roon seems to think that the MacBook is the core and gets confused. I found that I had to unauthorise the MacBook and then everything goes according to plan.

So, how do I stop Roon from thinking my MacBook is the core?

Hi @Jon_Baxendale,

Unauthorizing your previous server is an important aspect of the migration process. Glad you were able to get it sorted!

You’ll want to stop Roon Server from running on your Mac. You can do this via the taskbar on your mac, for example:

This should help clear things up! Let me know if it helps.

Well, the problem seems to be that Roon sees a second server when I upload from the MacBook.

Hi @Jon_Baxendale ,

If you quit RoonServer from the taskbar, there should only be the Nucleus server visible. Have you been able to locate it as per @benjamin ‘s instructions?

After several hours of uninterrupted play, today, I uploaded more ripped tracks from my MacBook and now am back to square one.

Both the MacBook and the Nucleus were showing up as servers (again). I de-authorised the MacBook and it fixed the problem, though it had never been set as a core. Before the Nucleus, (I don’t think you read these posts properly) I used a MacMini as the core.

So, confidently, I uploaded more ripped CDs through the Roon app on the computer.

Now, it seems to think the MacBook is the core and everything has crashed again.

This must be a software issue.

Your previous response seems to have been based on the assumption that I have used the MacBook as the core, which has never been the case.

It would be good to get this sorted out. I don’t have a television and listen to music when not working.

The silent void is, at this moment, filled only with the sound of the dog farting.

Hey @Jon_Baxendale,

Thanks for the update! An odd issue indeed, let’s see what we can do about getting you back up and running properly. It sounds like the process of adding more tracks to your Roon library is triggering the issues.

Can you break down your process of how you’re adding tracks? I’m interested to figure out how Roon Server is restarting on your Mac after you’ve quit it.

Are you transferring tracks over the network to your Nucleus internal storage?

I was initially dragging and dropping the files into the Roon app on my MacBook, but subsequently added them directly through Finder. I thought this might make a more stable transfer but to no avail.

As I have said, I have never used my MacBook as the server, though it seems to think I have. When I connect to the MacBook through the iPhone app, it shows stuff I had added from Tidal. I haven’t used Tidal in about four years. Even then, the core was a MacMini.