Lyngdorf MP40 not initiating or disappearing in Roon (ref#2XQUQB)

What best describes your playback issue?

· Music stops playing unexpectedly

What type of Zone is affected by this problem?

· *Network Zones* are affected.

Is the affected network Zone connected with Ethernet or WiFi?

· Ethernet

Does the issue affect all file formats?

· The issue affects *multiple/all* file formats.

Does the issue happen with local library music, streaming service music, or both?

· *Both streaming and local* *library* music are affected.

Do you encounter any playback errors with the "System Output" Zone?

· The System Output has the same problem as my other Zone.

Do you have a complex network setup?

· I don't have a mesh network, but I use *managed network switches*

Your local network might need some re-arranging to support Roon.

· None of the suggestions have helped me. I'd like to submit a support request.

Do you have an approximate timestamp of when the issue last occurred?

· Sunday Jan 18 between 9am-11:10am PST - Multiple crashes

What are the make and model of the affected audio device(s) and the connection type?

· Lyngdorf MP-40

Describe the issue

Lyngdorf MP40 “will not initiate” Roon session or suddenly disappears as available Roon Endpoint

Describe your network setup

I have had Roon since it was Sooloos. My network is configured properly with NAS storage and MAC Mini based roon server. This seems to have started when Mac moved to OS 15 and beyond. Tahoe especially.

Hello @aarongutin,

Thank you for the details.

Starting with macOS 15 (Sequoia) and later, including Tahoe, Apple introduced tighter and less transparent local network security controls. In some cases, this can cause Roon to intermittently lose access to the local network, which may result in networked endpoints (such as the Lyngdorf MP-40) disappearing or failing to initiate playback sessions.

Please check the following on your Mac mini:

  1. Go to macOS System Settings → Privacy & Security → Local Network
  2. Make sure Roon and Roon Server are both allowed
  3. If they are already enabled, toggle them off and back on
  4. Reboot the Mac
  5. Test again and see if the behavior persists

We’ve seen this resolve similar endpoint discovery and dropout issues on macOS 15+ systems.

Let us know how it goes.

Thank you. I have taken these steps. I have rebuilt both the RAAT server folder and the RoonServer folders multiple times. I have also turned off and on the permissions for Local Network Access on more than 15 occasions:)

Multiple Drops yesterday and again this morning at 8:36am.

Hi @aarongutin,

Thanks for the additional information!

We see from a fresh Roon Server diagnostic that Roon is losing the Lyngdorf MP-40, which is not completing the RAAT “prepare/setup” handshake:

[zoneplayer/raat] Failed to prepare Lyngdorf MP-40 in 15000ms. Giving up
[zoneplayer/raat] failed to setup any endpoints..giving up

This is telling us that Roon successfully:

  • Opens the file
  • Starts buffering
  • Negotiates format
  • Sends setup to the MP-40
But the MP-40 does not fully acknowledge or stabilize the RAAT stream fast enough. Roon then kills the stream, resulting in:
Track Stopped Due to Error

We do see something interesting - the first tracks’ format was 44.1 kHz / 16-bit, while the second was 96 kHz / 24-bit.

Each time Roon sends:

[raatclient] SENT {"request":"setup","format":{...}}

Shortly afterward, the MP-40 fails to fully prepare. This pattern strongly suggests the MP-40 is choking during stream re-initialization, especially on format changes.

If possible, could you check the firmware on the MP40? See if there are any updates, and if not, see if you’re able to reinstall the current version.

After that, lets test out locking the sample rate temporarily.

In Roon:

  • Device Setup → Lyngdorf MP-40
  • Disable DSP
  • Set Max Sample Rate = 44.1 kHz
  • Disable sample rate conversion
If stability returns, it could be a format-change bug.

Thank you! :raising_hands:

This is great! Thank you. I am running the latest release for theMP40 which is 5.4.0. Perhaps you have a contact at Lyngdorf to discuss this with?

Hi @aarongutin,

It is unclear if you ran through the steps listed above:

Please let me know if you can go through the above, and if the same issue occurs. Thank you!

Yes. I have reinstalled, rebuilt the Raat Server folder and the Roon Server folders on multiple occasions. I have tried every suggested step I have been able to locate. I can confirm that it is only the lyngdorf that behaves this way. The other (2) zones play without issue and without interruption.

Hi @aarongutin,

If you could, please perform a factory reset on the MP40, and then see if the issue reproduces?

If it does, please share the specific track name and we’ll take another look. Thank you!

I have done this multiple times and this issue persists.

Hello @aarongutin ,

Can you please provide more details regarding your network setup? How is the Lyngodorf and Roon Server connected? Are they on the same switch? What is the model/manufacturer of the networking gear? Are you able to reboot your network and does that help, even temporarily?

The network is not the issue as nothing on this network has changed for years of solid performance from Roon. I am happy to discuss more details directly, but not on a public forum.

Multiple crashes following another factory reset of the MP40. This morning at between 9-920AM PST there was a crash.

Hello @aarongutin,

To better understand what’s happening on the Lyngdorf side, could you please help us clarify how the issue presents itself directly on the MP-40 when playback drops or the device disappears in Roon?

Specifically, when the issue occurs:

  1. What do you see on the MP-40 itself?
  • Does the front panel/UI freeze, reboot, or show any error message?
  • Or does it appear responsive and normal?
  1. Does the MP-40 temporarily lose network connectivity?
  • For example, does it disappear from the Lyngdorf control app or web interface at the same time?
  • Or is it still reachable while Roon loses it?
  1. Does audio stop immediately, or does it fail only when starting a new track / changing tracks?
  2. Does the MP-40 recover on its own, or does it require:
  • a manual input change,
  • a reboot,
  • or a power cycle to reappear in Roon?
  1. If possible, do you notice whether this happens more often when switching sample rates or formats (e.g. 44.1 → 96 kHz)?

This will help us determine whether the endpoint is restarting, temporarily dropping off the network, or remaining stable while the RAAT session fails.

Thank you — the more detail you can share here, the easier it will be to narrow this down.

Hi @aarongutin,

While it will require you to do a little more testing, we’ll need the information @vadim has outlined above in order to proceed. Please let us know if we can clarify any of the five tests he’s described.

Please also, if you’re willing, share at least the basics of how you’ve connected these two devices across your local network. Do you have a mesh network, for instance?

Without any sense of the network topology, we’re unable to confirm how multicast traffic that carries device discovery announcements will be routed between your server and this endpoint.

We’ll watch for your reply and proceed from there.

Hi All - I was able to test several things this week and I believe I was able to isolate the snag & resolve the issue. I will be testing through the weekend to be sure I am correct. Will reply back Monday.

Hello @aarongutin ,

Thanks for keeping us updated. Yes, please do share your findings once you’ve concluded your testing, thanks!

Hi @aarongutin,

We wanted to reach out to confirm you weren’t experiencing any further issues. This thread will shortly auto-close without any new activity from the OP. We’ll of course keep it open if you require additional troubleshooting.

Hi There - I have 100% ruled out multicast issues, Roon software and MAC OS issues. This took a little time as I needed to go one variable at a time. Of course, the last test was rolling the MP40 back to 5.3.0 and, of course, this stopped the constant port flapping from that device. I have had Roon playing for over 24 hours without the pre-amp dropping out of Roon and/or the stream stopping. I believe this is now resolved. Thanks for the patience and the help.

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