OK. Just thought if the Nighthawk was specifically designed for the gaming environment it might have some defaults that were missed along the way which could adversely affect how Roon behaved with downstream devices.
Is there really a SQ issue between storing your files on a drive in the Nucleus compared to using a NAS? Ok, there may be some slight disc noise if using a HDD, but surely not a major (noticeable?) effect on sq. I would imagine having an Ethernet endpoint would have a much larger benefit on sq. which you could add at a later stage. If you don’t need a NAS, why get one?
I don’t think there is any difference, even using a spinning drive, when using an endpoint but others may beg to differ. I have actually tried it to see and settled on an internal drive albeit in a fanless Rock system as opposed to a Nucleus.
Update… DSD128,DSD64, 24\192 all playing faultlessly from files placed on laptop.
Thanks to all.
Danny ( or anyone),
Is the installing of internal storage in the nucleus something that someone who has never removed a screw from a computer perform without problems? Also formatting and any other task that may be necessary? Or… can all that be done prior to shipping if purchased through you.
In an enviroment when there is a lot of background noise from the ocean ( 43db) what type of internal drive would be 1. Ideal and 2. Appropriate. Is a SSD always preferred ?My library is about 2.3 tb.
Thanks
James
See here for yourself: https://kb.roonlabs.com/Installing_Nucleus_Internal_Storage
yes, but it is 1 click on web ui after you install the drive.
if you have the money to spend, a 4tb ssd is ideal because it is silent and it fits.
Thanks Danny,
Could you or anyone suggest search criteria for the 4 tb ssd and hdd’s so I can check out prices here in Australia. I’m not sure what to search for. Are there brands that I should be looking for ? As I said, I’ve never needed to open up a computer and install anything.
Also, Does the nucleus need to be ethernet connected to the router for streaming from tidal, updates etc, ie, does the nucleus have wifi capabilites?
Apologies for these lame questions.
Thanks James
James 4TB drives are not many for SSD and perhaps HDD might be OK but heights need to be checked…I think the max in 9.5mm 2.5" only formats of course
Ideally use Ethernet
Hi Wizard,
Prior to your post I was checking out 4tb ssd prices. I don’t know if I was looking at correct types but at a little less than $2,000 for a Samsung 850 evo 2.5 inch sata Iii, I think I may take a look at the hdd prices. The nucleus would be sitting right in the listening area but hopefully noise wouldn’t be an issue. As mentioned before, my listening area has background noise from the sea anyway, but obviously I don’t want appreciable extra fan noise etc. I imagine it would be no worse than the macbookpro fan which kicks in now and then which it would be replacing.
Is the drive I am searching for a 2.5 inch internal drive. Would that search pull up what I need, be it ssd or hdd.I can’t seem to see it’s details on the nucleus site. Does that sort of money sound about right for the ssd drive?
Thanks
James
Yes a 2.5" is the only size that will fit but the height I think is limited to 9.5mm which most drives are (or 7mm for the thinner models which works of course) but larger TB drives can be 12-15mm so keep that measurement in check on the specs
2.5" HDD drives are pretty quiet anyway so I wouldn’t think the drive noise would be an issue enclosed in the Nucleus.
I have a lot (18 x 3.5") of spinning drives in my listening area and seldom is my attention drawn to them. Most are 2-3m from where I sit. 2 NAS setups with 8 and 2 drives, 2 x 4 bay RAID drives and find more issues with the fans and room aircon and ceiling fans then drive access noise.
Note that this is temporary in my listening area … I would love the sound of the sea to be an issue 
Yep, it’s a real privilige to live here and a complete first world audio problem.
the crows bother me when I’m back in oz… that and 5:45AM sunrises 
I have a 2.5" HDD in my fanless Rock system and cannot hear it at all.
Thanks Tony. Good to know.
It’s the black cockatoos here Wizard.
I’m seeing Western digital, Seagate , Toshiba etc hdd’s. Are any to be preferred…or more importantly avoided, for this particular task?
Many would say use WD and avoid Seagate. I am not one of them.
Can someone suggest suitable 3tb or 4 tb hdd for the nucleus. I can’t find any 9.5 mm or less. All seem to be 15mm.
Ok…on further reading it looks like max. Hdd size is 2 tb and 4 tb for SSD. If that’s the story, looks like I’m back to an external usb drive or a really expensive internal SSD as I need more than 2tb storage.
I did read this from last year which is confusing and I’m assuming turned out not to be the case…
Well I did say I think… @danny will be the one to reconfirm one way or the other.
I’m going on the Nucleus installation document which indicates
Step 1: Make sure you have everything
2.5" HDD or SSD with a drive height of 7mm or 9mm
4 black screws
4 silver screws*
2 hard drive rails*
We ran into a small issue and the 15mm drives didn’t fit due to production error.
This will be fixed in 2019
Thanks Danny,
So will current nucleus designs be able to accomodate the larger drives in the 2019 fix?
Thanks