Moving to NUC ROCK

I’ve been running Roon Server on a Synology DS1019+ NAS which has an Intel Celeron CPU and I bumped it 16GB ram. The NAS works flawlessly feeding audio and video files to various endpoints in the household including Plex, Sonos, Bluesound, AppleTV, Mojo/Poly etc. But when ROON comes into play it can get a tad spotty, especially with high-res 24-bit files.75% of the “zones” are ethernet and remaining are wireless via ASUS AI mesh.

So now I decided I’ll invest a bit into the software. So I just purchased/ordered an Intel NUC 10 and will get ROON ROCK set up on that. I figure the benefits of a “beefier” and dedicated Core i7 with its own 16GB DDR4 ram for ROON might make a difference to overall performance and the NAS can stay strictly as a media storage/library feeder.

I see there’s a FAQ on transferring between cores. Is there any other advice I should heed?

TIA.

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Stephen the FAQ is good, just make sure you get all the BIOS and firmware updates run from Windows or wherever you can

I made exactly the same transition a couple of years ago and it fixed a lot of minor blips I had

Good luck

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Thank you very much!

You provided a very good point about updates and such. I likely would have forgotten to look prior to set up. I do see the latest available firmware and other updates on the Intel NUC page.

I moved from a Mac Mini. No regrets. NUC ROCK works great. Be aware that the BIOS setup for the Gen 10 NUC BIOS setup is a little more involved than previous generations. Nothing too hard, but just be aware. Agree with the i7 over i3. You really don’t need 16GB RAM, but it won’t hurt.

I just loaded my music on my new Core and re-indexed it. Nothing to it–runs great. I haven’t had to reboot or troubleshoot since I originally booted it up.

Good luck.

Thanks Mike. This is also good to know. Funny you mentioned Mac Mini. I have an old Mini 2009 and almost considered buying the new M1. But for almost half the price the NUC route won.

I was a little unsure which BIOS file to download, but the F7 version worked just fine. That was the only gap, and it wasn’t a big one, in the ROCK install guide.

I have the NUC ROCK set up and running now! It was a very fun and exhilarating process which took all of about 45 minutes to complete.

The only hiccup in the steps was actually getting the codecs copied over to the elusive Data folder. Turns out the only way I could navigate to the \Rock\ was via Windows File Explorer, not ‘Map Network Drive’ or using a web browser. Took me about 20 minutes to figure that out, lol.

BIOS set up was a tad tricky, as Mike eluded to. Disabling (or un-greying) UEFI required an extra step (ROCK install guide covers that) and getting the M.2 drive to actually show up as a Boot Order option required a couple of reboots of the NUC to fix. Prior the only Boot Order options were a couple of ethernet-related choices which was odd.

I do not know about reliable connectivity yet playing through ROON to devices, especially Hi-Res, so that’s the next step.

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Listened to a complete 96/24 album of 10 tracks, Pumarosa “The Witch”.

ROCK delivered it via Wi-Fi to Chord Mojo/Poly which is set as a ROON endpoint. Zero dropouts/disconnects. Absolutely fantastic!

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I am considering moving to a NUC10 i5 ROCK core but I have one basic question. Currently using my main Win10 PC as the Roon server, and also play most music out of the PC’s optical output to my Parasound integrated amplifier.
Here’s the question: If I connect to the NUC Roon server using the PC as a controller, will the Roon core on the NUC still treat the Win10 PC as an output device and allow streaming out the optical port of the PC ? TIA for your views on this.

Short answer is yes. I started on a desktop then moved to a NUC/RCOK. Copied my library to an internal drive on the NUC. The PC continued to be used as a zone in the Bedroom.

Super and thanks for the quick reply! Happy listening.

@Signal2Noise, have you noticed whether your NUC will play files imported from the Mac which contain accented or other special characters? Like Björk, José González, etc.?

I recently migrated my library from a Mac Mini over to an internal drive on Nucleus, and while Roon can see all my migrated music (shows path, analyzes it, gives dynamic range), it won’t play any file that is contained in a path that has special characters (whether in a folder name or file name). Very frustrating, and reported in several other threads. Unless Roon has some answers soon, I’m going to give up my Nucleus and go back to my Mac mini. You might want to get that M1 Mac mini after all…

Hello Fred,
Nothing was ever "imported’ from the Mac Mini. All media has always been kept on a NAS and when I used iTunes on Mac it was mapped to the NAS for the library. Same for NUC ROCK now.
You still got me curious about the special characters so I fired up some Björk (ripped CD to FLAC in my personal library) and it played fine.

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Hopefully you can get your specific issue sorted out. I do not own a Nucleus.

Wouldn’t be better to upgrade your Synology server or made custom server instead of buying NUC?
The problem with your server is Celeron CPU.

Read the first post for some context.

For ROON purposes the NUC solution works out fantastically.

Yup, the issue I describe only afflicts files migrated from a Mac to ROCK/Nucleus internal drives.