# MQA disappointing **URL:** \ **Category:** MQA\ **Created:** [May 31, 2018, 9:55pm UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/mqa-disappointing/44057 "2018-05-31T21:55:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 185
**Author:** ![Wim\_Hulpia](https://community.roonlabs.com/letter_avatar/wim_hulpia/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Wim\_Hulpia](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/Wim_Hulpia)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2021, 4:37pm UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/mqa-disappointing/44057/3890 "2021-03-24T16:37:54Z")
It seems Sonos went for the real hi-res PCM. ![image](https://roon-community-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/original/3X/d/1/d1bb17899a0459c838a8a434157fd276c2630f6a.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![davidh](https://community.roonlabs.com/letter_avatar/davidh/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@davidh](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/davidh)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2021, 7:18pm UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/mqa-disappointing/44057/3891 "2021-03-24T19:18:43Z")
Who really wants to listen to hi res on Sonos speakers ? ---
**Author:** ![ElTel](https://community.roonlabs.com/user_avatar/community.roonlabs.com/eltel/32/126676_2.png) [@ElTel](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/ElTel)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2021, 12:26am UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/mqa-disappointing/44057/3892 "2021-03-25T00:26:27Z")
You’re forgetting the Sonos Port (nee Connect). ---
**Author:** ![Wim\_Hulpia](https://community.roonlabs.com/letter_avatar/wim_hulpia/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Wim\_Hulpia](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/Wim_Hulpia)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2021, 10:09am UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/mqa-disappointing/44057/3893 "2021-03-25T10:09:38Z")
Found a comparison of pcm and mqa on reddit. It concludes that **mqa is nothing more than a minimizing filter being applied**. Something I’ve been telling here for quite some time. > [@Comparison of PCM and MQA](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/comparison-of-pcm-and-mqa/149787/156): > > A honest comparison between PCM and MQA : +1 Conclusion (last paragraph) All testing so far shows that MQA is nothing more than a minimum phase upsampling filter, which is arguably WORSE than a linear phase filter that most decent DACs or upsampling players will use as standard. MQA is 100% closed-source, and they go to great lengths to make it impossible to directly compare files that have not been altered. Most MQA content cannot be obtained in native HiRes anywhere. And they do not al… ---
**Author:** ![ricgf](https://community.roonlabs.com/user_avatar/community.roonlabs.com/ricgf/32/123112_2.png) [@ricgf](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/ricgf)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2021, 11:20am UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/mqa-disappointing/44057/3894 "2021-03-25T11:20:44Z")
That settles it, I guess. The reasons to support MQA get smaller by the day. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Graham](https://community.roonlabs.com/letter_avatar/richard_graham/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Richard\_Graham](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/Richard_Graham)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2021, 3:39pm UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/mqa-disappointing/44057/3895 "2021-03-25T15:39:50Z")
> [@Wim\_Hulpia](#): > > It seems Sonos went for the real hi-res PCM. This is what John Darko posted: > "What happens next I had to pull not from the press release but from my Qobuz press contact directly. > > We might presume that S2 Sonos hardware simply downsamples all 24bit/96kHz and 24bit/192kHz streams to 24bit/48kHz — but we’d be wrong. Qobuz will instead – for now at least – serve a CD-quality (16bit/44.1kHz) stream. Downsampling may or may not come later." Truth will out. ---
**Author:** ![davidh](https://community.roonlabs.com/letter_avatar/davidh/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@davidh](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/davidh)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2021, 9:04pm UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/mqa-disappointing/44057/3896 "2021-03-25T21:04:15Z")
True. What’s it have? A coax out? ---
**Author:** ![DrTone](https://community.roonlabs.com/user_avatar/community.roonlabs.com/drtone/32/330560_2.png) [@DrTone](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/DrTone)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2021, 9:07pm UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/mqa-disappointing/44057/3897 "2021-03-25T21:07:47Z")
> **[Article: The Sonos Port Isn't Bit Perfect](https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/62308-article-the-sonos-port-isnt-bit-perfect/page/2/?tab=comments#comment-1119650)** ---
**Author:** ![Chrislayeruk](https://community.roonlabs.com/user_avatar/community.roonlabs.com/chrislayeruk/32/47983_2.png) [@Chrislayeruk](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/Chrislayeruk)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2021, 8:51am UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/mqa-disappointing/44057/3898 "2021-03-28T08:51:29Z")
![image](https://roon-community-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/original/3X/2/d/2dfc104c52d7573ae8c5fc301d30c4186e5a9450.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![killdozer](https://community.roonlabs.com/user_avatar/community.roonlabs.com/killdozer/32/211569_2.png) [@killdozer](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/killdozer)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2021, 8:55am UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/mqa-disappointing/44057/3899 "2021-03-28T08:55:52Z")
That quote could be used to justify any activity in the world 😂 ---
**Author:** ![andybob](https://community.roonlabs.com/user_avatar/community.roonlabs.com/andybob/32/109007_2.png) [@andybob](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/andybob)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2021, 10:42am UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/mqa-disappointing/44057/3900 "2021-03-31T10:42:18Z")
Hi all, As part of the [steps to reduce very large threads](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/steps-to-reduce-large-threads/153269) Mods are closing this thread. Ordinarily we would re-open a new thread, but given that it is now three days since anyone last posted here I’m kind of hoping that everyone has accepted that everything that can possibly be said on this topic has been (repeatedly) said. Before converting another thread into the same discussion, please, for the sake of everyone’s sanity, consider the possibility of not posting something you have said before. ---
**Author:** ![andybob](https://community.roonlabs.com/user_avatar/community.roonlabs.com/andybob/32/109007_2.png) [@andybob](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/andybob)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2021, 10:42am UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/mqa-disappointing/44057/3901 "2021-03-31T10:42:29Z")
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