Need to upgrade the NUC running my ROON Rock

I need to upgrade My NUC and i would like some local DC help if possible

Hey @Ben_Katz,

Thanks for reaching out! We’re not able to offer in-person support at this time, we’re only available here, via the community.

Do you have a specific technical issue you’re having trouble with during your upgrade process? If you’re just seeking some additional information on the process, here’s more info on ROCK options:

We’ll also move this over to Roon Software Discussion where others with similar setups can help. Let me know! :+1:

I have spoken to a few companies and have Been told i might have driver issues. I currently have an old NUC i5 with 16GB or RAM. Id like to move to a screaming fast i9 woth 128GB of RAM so my ROON will speed up a bit. I have about 800K tracks so i need a faster system. Im just nervous about getting it built and running on the new machine

Hey @Ben_Katz,

Thanks for the follow-up! I’m sorry to hear about the driver issues. Setting up a new machine is always fun though! I’m sure others from the community will chime in with their thoughts on potential setups.

That said, 800k tracks is an impressive library, and will likely push any audio software to its limits. I’m not able to completely confirm you’ll have smooth functionality 100% of the time with a library of that size. :slightly_smiling_face:

Not looking for perfection. Just a better experience. Danny Dalai has long said the platform can support over 1M tracks we just need the right hardware. My system is maybe 7 years old so a new one with a better processor and lots more RAM should help

Rock is a closed system, you cannot update individual drivers.
A ready built Nucleus maybe more appealing to you than DIY?

Thabks for the post. Ive look at the Roon builds but the basic wont work for me and 4K for the Titan i can buy something comprable for much less than half of that. I dont need the pretty component. What am i missing?

Jim thanks for weighing in. Why do i need a 4K dollar device when i can get the same specs for less than half? Just curious.

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Well, Nucleus’ are turn key = just plug it in and go. From your first post, you need help setting up something with the “same specs for less than half”… so the price difference might be almost justifiable to someone in a similar position :wink:

Thats a good point. If i can really just plug it in and have it configured and work that would be great but ive done some research in the interim and i dont think it works that way. I still have to set it up and migrate my specific database… or am i wrong

  1. backup old core, unplug, remove
  2. authorise new core (nucleus?)
  3. restore backup
  4. miller time
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Yes that what i would do with any setup. Ive now reviewed the titan for a substantial amount of time and I have NO idea what the processor is, how much RAM, what speed how it works. All the reviews talk about is how it cools and looks pretty. What am i missing

Seems like the Same NUC i have with support…

There are guides on how to install the rock software on a NUC. So if that is a option for you , why not ?

Will the 800k tracks be stored on a internal NVME ssd or a external drive / nas ?

Maybe there is a bottleneck already in your current system.

It’s not clear if you thinking about a new NUC or other PC, I use a 10i7 NUC with 32 Gb RAM but my library is somewhat smaller than yours

A NUC is always going to be a lower spec CPU to what you can achieve in a “desktop” Motherboard, so is unlikely to cut it.

If it were me with that library size I would go for a desktop, latest i7 maybe even i9 , loads of RAM (64 or 128) . The only drawback is noise so just hide it well away from any listening spot. All it needs is a LAN point nearby after all. I used a desktop on Windows 10 for many years with no issues.

I won’t comment on OS as I am a retired MS developer hence a bit Windows biased

I know @Rugby has opinions on desktop config for big libraries perhaps he may contribute.

Thank you for that post. I run a ASUSTOR NAS and a hardwired connection. It resudes in my basement far away from my listening area. Im not wed to a NUC its just what u have now.

This is potentially true if you try to install ROCK on a NUC (or any other computer) that is not on the list of devices supported by ROCK.

You can always try installing ROCK and see how far you get. Alternatively, you could install a linux distrubution (e.g. Unbuntu, Debian) and then install Roon Server on top of that.

One way of doing this with minimal effort is to use DietPi which, despite its name, can be installed on x86-64 devices and, on such devices, supports the installation of Roon Server using its interactive setup scripts.

DietPi is a pared down linux distribution based on Debian. There are a number of people on this forum, myself included, that use DietPi. It has been found to be a reliable OS for Roon Server and, additionally, can offer tools for monitoring aspects of the server performance that RoonOS (as installed by ROCK) does not (e.g. cpu temperature, memory usage, cpu utilisation etc) and can also be used to run other software (e.g. Roon Extension Manager, Plex and countless others).

This is the DietPi Dashboard (optionally installed) for my Roon Server (a NUC11TNHi7 which also provides a Plex server):

As you can see, at present, with Roon not in active use, the CPU temperature is about 29 deg Celcius, the CPU is barely used and the RAM utilisation is 1.3GByte used out of 15.3GByte avialable (note: my library is nowhere near the size of yours so your memory utilisation will likely be significantly higher).

I use the temperature (relative to room ambiant) as an indication of when I need to pull the NUC out of my cabinet (where it is not obviously visible) and clean out all of the accumulated dust :slight_smile:

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Thank you so much for your post i had no idea about this version

My collection is on an ASUSTOR NAS with ample cache space and RAM

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I run roon with a nuc 10 i5 on windows and it works just fine and updating and configuration are way easier as I am familiar with the OS and there is a host of diagnostics available.
Ah but I hear you say that it’s not configured for audio - that’s where the app fidelizer comes in -it shuts down non essential processes to improve sound quality.

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I hope this doesn’t complicate things, but have you considered just running Roon under Linux? You’ll have all the performance benefit of ROCK with a ton of control over the system itself. For example, you would be unlikely to hear the words “driver problem” with decent hardware and any of the mainstream Linux distributions. You might have to roll up your sleeves to get everything configured with such a large library, but you would be able to make a lot of decisions with very, very few restrictions, and a minimal Linux install on a small system with a gaming motherboard and lots of memory would probably run like a race car.

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