New Tidal albums not showing up in Roon

Also the new Graveyard is not there and this has been my most anticipated album of the past few months and it’s a little upsetting that a service I’m paying for doesn’t have it, same goes for the Dead Weather album… I see that Roon is working on it, but sorry I really do feel you’ve dropped the ball on this issue about it from the very start of the Roon/Tidal integration.

What is the point of listing more missing albums when they have already admitted that there is a problem and it is being repaired. Is it really that much of a problem that you have to use a different system to play 1 album.

Yes it is… I have a headless Mac and the Tidal iPad app does not have control for your stereo just the iPad/iPhone so it is a pain to listen to the albums I want using the website or app of Tidal on my main stereo system.

When this has been going on for months and I paid what I think is a lot of money for a service that ain’t working all that well (Tidal integration only, the Roon local library management is excellent). It’s awesome you don’t think it matters… I realize I’m venting, but I’m just disappointed is all.

I’ve noticed this on at least one album - didn’t realise it was a known issue, but it’s a bit of a shame -little issues make roon a little more frustrating.

I see the album in the tidal page of roon, but not in the roon albums section. Any idea of the fixes progress.

Ok, I said I was done posting to this thread but it’s over a month since I last posted and I would like to know if any closer to getting this resolved. I’ve seen other posts of people upset they can’t play latest Tidal album that they’ve been listening to on mobil when they get home to listen on Roon.

I’ve been taking a break from listening to the latest released stuff, so hasn’t been as much of an issue with me but figured the Roon team said a fix was coming in a few weeks and month more than covers a few weeks. Thought I heard rumors of a new release coming in beginning Nov. so hoping this gets fixed then as well.

I also see lifetime membership discount of 10% is coming to end but I can’t bring myself to spend that much money with the current state of Roon. Still waiting on cache playback, 64 bit interface, HDPlayer integration, and better Tidal integration. And if the can bring HDPlayer integration where it can play ALAC files I’d be sold.

Tidal tracks seem to be lagging. As an example Adele’s Hello is available for streaming on Tidal.
I’ve listened to it while mobile on the Tidal app and made the track a favorite.

Coming home I was looking forward to listening to it on my set.
But… it doesn’t exist in Roon. I’ve synched the repository etc, but no joy, no track.

That is to say, when I click ‘view all’ it does list an unavailable track. When I click on it and select play it crashes the client (both the one on my imac and the one of the ipad). I guess it did synch it from Tidal but Roon doesn’t know it yet?

It was released today. Give the guys a chance :yum:

Early days for Roon and “Hello”, but IMHO, Roon’s DBs should be syncing with TIDAL several times a day. It’s not premium to have to wait. I’m sure that the Roonies know this though.

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Please don’t let this forum turn into the usual negative back biting that happens on most. Its still under development, if you wanted a finished product you should have waited longer to join.

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@NickB
Eh ? What an odd & curious statement.

If I buy a car, should I wait for working brakes to be fitted - perhaps sometime in the future ?!

Look at https://roonlabs.com/ : please kindly point out where it mentions this product is in Beta & you install AND pay for it at your own risk ?

Simple, robust, basic as advertised functionality & reliability is expected when you sign-up and for some people this hasn’t been the case - and they’re perfectly entitled to complain.

For me the great thing about streaming is that music is available instantly.
When I hear a new song on the radio while driving that I like, I really like (and expect) to be able to play it on my set when I get home.
Especially when the streaming service actually has it.

I share that not to bash Roon, as I really like it and have been advocating it here and elsewhere, but because I believe that for the group of listeners that like “today’s” music it is a key feature for Roon to stay current. I am with @VirusKiller that a sync several times a day would not be ’ premium’ with overnight as the minimum (song still not there by the way).
If it is too big a volume to do this for all, perhaps start with doing it for the songs that Tidal highlights on their ’ top’ lists?

So no bashing, but an observation that I expect I don’t stand alone in and as I am interested in Roons view on this, I am posting it here.

@rolski

Not at all a curious statement - do you think this is the final and finished version of Roon? It is a work in progress unless you don’t want any more work done on it to produce the expected upgrades and extra’s.

Thanks @carl, better title this way.

@rovinggecko no worries re title change.

I’m also with VK that new releases like this on Tidal should be synced in a matter of hours not weeks.

I know the Roon guys are aware that Tidal syncing has ‘Roon’ for improvement [sorry about the pun].
It’s another item on the ‘to do’ list … that has to balance priority wise with all the other developments / snags on that list.

From what I understand it’s quite a lot of work to implement (weeks not days) so we may have to be patient, but I understand that does not make it any less frustrating when we get tripped up by it.

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Not bashing, but same here - my wife (honest) wanted to play it and it’s tricky to explain / defend Roon when it’s on the tidal ap but not in the tidal section of Roon, which of course makes it impossible to play.

I have another Tidal album that refuses to show up in Roon and that isn’t a new release. Seems like it would be better to have a fallback where you can just play streamed content regardless of whether metadata providers have caught up - even if it can only be played direct from the ‘Tidal’ tab and not looking pretty.

I understand that the Roon guys still have improvements to library and database updates and syncs very much in their sights. The addition of new releases from the various sources is not just adding items to a list. The data, credits etc all need knitting into the main Roon database. This is apparently not trivial and I think it takes many hours of processing to complete. So, currently, it couldn’t be done be several times a day.

I do wonder - even if Tidal add something to their system, Roon may still need to wait for a batch update from Tidal. No reason to think they push updates out realtime.

Fwiw there were albums released yday that appeared yesterday. I was pleasantly surprised to see that.

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Adele single Hello came out last week, and I added it to my music in Tidal as a favorite. After several days, not only it is not shown in my collections or overview in Roon, but is also does not appear when searching Tidal through Roon. It simply seems not to exist in Roon. Any idea why? Thank you.

@gianfri, I’ve moved your new post into this existing subject. Have a read of the above to catch up on the discussion.

I can’t answer definitively how long we will have to wait, perhaps @Mike could help.

(Adele single)
Perhaps it’s the extra effort I had to go through to play it yesterday (installing Tidal Ap via VNC and then faffing with VNC to get it to actually play), but for anyone that feels they’re missing out by not being able to hear it in the full glory of their home hifi, I wouldn’t worry too much…… :wink:

I’m going to merge this topic into the New Tidal albums not showing up in Roon so that all the discussion is in one place.