# New Topping DAC would it okay with HQPlayer?

**URL:** <https://community.roonlabs.com/t/new-topping-dac-would-it-okay-with-hqplayer/295100>\
**Category:** HQ Player\
**Created:** [March 7, 2025, 10:41pm UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/new-topping-dac-would-it-okay-with-hqplayer/295100 "2025-03-07T22:41:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![jbar2797](https://community.roonlabs.com/user_avatar/community.roonlabs.com/jbar2797/32/355019_2.png) [@jbar2797](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/jbar2797)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 10:41pm UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/new-topping-dac-would-it-okay-with-hqplayer/295100/1 "2025-03-07T22:41:58Z")

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Off topic but does anyone know if this new Topping DAC would be okay to use with HQPlayer?

Its using 1 bit non IC and am curious if it can be used effectively what would be some mandatory or recommended settings in HQPlayer.

Thanks all

> **[TOPPING D90 III Discrete 1-bit Fully-balanced Desktop DAC](https://apos.audio/products/topping-d90-iii-discrete-1-bit-fully-balanced-desktop-dac?_pos=1&_sid=8cb1e49df&_ss=r&variant=45696136806636)**
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> Discover the TOPPING D90 III Discrete DAC, engineered for audiophiles who demand precision and clarity. Featuring a 1-bit PSRM module, ultra-low jitter, ten-band EQ, and high-res Bluetooth support for studio-quality sound at home.

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**Author:** ![jbar2797](https://community.roonlabs.com/user_avatar/community.roonlabs.com/jbar2797/32/355019_2.png) [@jbar2797](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/jbar2797)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2025, 1:28am UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/new-topping-dac-would-it-okay-with-hqplayer/295100/2 "2025-03-09T01:28:09Z")

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im interested in this DAC to acocmpany a Topping A90 discrete amp but am against it if it wouldnt work properly with hqplayer 🙂

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**Author:** ![ffk](https://community.roonlabs.com/user_avatar/community.roonlabs.com/ffk/32/127253_2.png) [@ffk](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/ffk)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2025, 4:51am UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/new-topping-dac-would-it-okay-with-hqplayer/295100/3 "2025-05-18T04:51:48Z")

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More discussion on this dac here

> [@Best native DSD DACs for use with HQPlayer?](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/best-native-dsd-dacs-for-use-with-hqplayer/132298/1776):
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> Topping D90 III Discrete uses a positive and negative 16-element DAC for each channel, achieving high performance indicators of THD+N\<0.00006% and SNR\>128dB. it is designed with an observation window at the DSM module for users to directly see the internal structure. Topping D900 takes DSM technology to the extreme, using a positive and negative 32-element DAC for each channel, marking a new height in performance. Of course still waiting for confirmation of true DSD Direct conversion

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**Author:** ![jussi\_laako](https://community.roonlabs.com/letter_avatar/jussi_laako/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@jussi\_laako](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/jussi_laako)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 12:56am UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/new-topping-dac-would-it-okay-with-hqplayer/295100/4 "2025-05-19T00:56:15Z")

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I have a loaner one now for testing and measurements, we’ll see how it fares.

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**Author:** ![steven\_goodier](https://community.roonlabs.com/letter_avatar/steven_goodier/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@steven\_goodier](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/steven_goodier)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2025, 10:51am UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/new-topping-dac-would-it-okay-with-hqplayer/295100/5 "2025-05-26T10:51:08Z")

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Hi Jussi, how does the d90 3 discrete hold up?

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**Author:** ![jussi\_laako](https://community.roonlabs.com/letter_avatar/jussi_laako/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@jussi\_laako](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/jussi_laako)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2025, 9:04pm UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/new-topping-dac-would-it-okay-with-hqplayer/295100/6 "2025-05-26T21:04:35Z")

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I haven’t got time yet to test it out…

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**Author:** ![jussi\_laako](https://community.roonlabs.com/letter_avatar/jussi_laako/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@jussi\_laako](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/jussi_laako)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2025, 8:08pm UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/new-topping-dac-would-it-okay-with-hqplayer/295100/7 "2025-05-28T20:08:16Z")

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OK, now I’ve done some measurements. Doing all is not possible, because the DAC misbehaves enough that some of the tests go broken. (latest firmware installed)

But I can tell that it is not a Direct DSD DAC, even though “DSD Bypass” is enabled which is supposed to turn it into one. Maybe this has AK4191 or some other similar chip as a front-end?

It is quite apparent from wideband measurements…

Sweep with 44.1k PCM input:

 ![Topping_D90IIIDiscrete_sweep-wide-44k1](https://roon-community-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/original/4X/2/9/6/29672e413774a39a043c36f5a0308b4ff2c959ee.png)

Sweep with 7th order modulator at DSD256:

 ![Topping_D90IIIDiscrete_sweep-wide-DSD256](https://roon-community-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/original/4X/6/4/8/6482cd4640502d04224b11c9b464e3e4fd991b49.png)

Sweep with 5th order modulator at DSD256:

 ![Topping_D90IIIDiscrete_sweep-wide-DSD256-5ord](https://roon-community-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/original/4X/e/b/c/ebc1246c2d692eaf560381c66b833b8f4fd64272.png)

It all looks the same, while of course it shouldn’t!

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**Author:** ![dabassgoesboomboom](https://community.roonlabs.com/user_avatar/community.roonlabs.com/dabassgoesboomboom/32/131673_2.png) [@dabassgoesboomboom](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/dabassgoesboomboom)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2025, 2:51pm UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/new-topping-dac-would-it-okay-with-hqplayer/295100/8 "2025-07-16T14:51:57Z")

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Not sure how I missed this post.

> [@jussi\_laako](#):
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> It all looks the same, while of course it shouldn’t!

lol
