I am looking into buying a Nucleus having seen one at the Sound and Vision Show in Bristol UK. Only thing holding me back at the moment is the lack of a decent web page, specs etc. Why might I need these I hear you ask? Well 1. I want to put an internal SSD inside it to store my music, I just need to know the specs/size. 2. I’d like to add a linear power supply (I think it was mentioned when the Nucleus launched last year). The Sbooster guys in Holland reckon their BOTW P&P ECO 18V – 19V will do the trick (https://www.sbooster.com/botw-pp-eco-18-19v/), what do you reckon?
I’m writing a manual with all this information right this moment. I hope to be done in the next day or so. It’s started at https://kb.roonlabs.com/Nucleus_Manual
The Sbooster will work, people are putting 2tb and 4tb 2.5" 7mm SSDs into the device succesfully.
Our power supply will work fine, so you can either use the PS that comes with it or get a Sbooster. Our PS will have an industrial design to match the Nucleus itself.
In the UK, Henley is doing distribution, and you’d have to check about availability. They ordered a lot of units though.
‘When it’s done’ is the best answer you are going to get here, I’m afraid. As with software, in hardware development there’s many things that could influence production times (perhaps even more since third parties are involved).
That’s why Roon does not offer timeframes for features (or hardware). The few times they did in the past did not end well: with expectations rising high, so was disappointment when the indicated timeframes were not exactly met.
Expect an announcement as soon as it’s done. Or get an Sbooster PSU – they’re really nice.
They appear to be on sale at the moment, with a MKII refreshment of the entire line coming up. No dates for that as well, it appears
I got a 6V model for my Microrendu (it ran too hot at 9V while feeding the DAC) and a 12V for my headphone DAC/AMP (Meridian Prime) with great results – my HP setup is dead quiet now (except for the music ;-)).
No, don’t waste your money on a fancy power supply for the Nucleus when using network endpoints; it won’t make any difference whatsoever. Frankly, you’re probably wasting your money even if you connect the endpoint directly to the Nucleus via USB or HDMI…
It might make a difference. Ethernet passes on high impedance noise through the transformers. If you are not using a switch or the switch you are using does nothing to stop the noise, you may find an LPS to improve sound quality over the standard SMPS.
So to find good LPSU . This Teddy Pardo is better than Sbooster BOTW P&P ECO MKII for same money and such Teddy Pardo is suitable for any NUC (not only maximum for 7i5, but also for 7i7BNH ).
Ethernet is already transformer isolated. I am going to go with “no” on this one. And I recon most people using Roon are doing multi-zone, and so there will be a switch involved as well.
I certainly don’t feel the need to use an LPS with my sonicTransporter i5 as the switch I use blocks the vast majority of high impedance noise the Ethernet transformers do not block.
I would use a quality LPS on the Roon endpoint feeding my DAC, however. For example, if I were using a Sonore ultraRendu, I would be using my 7v Teddy Pardo LPS to power the ultraRendu.
Thanks for all the replies - My view/gut feel is that ONLY using Ethernet per above no hi-grade PS is required, however if you plan to plug a DAC directly in then it would be of benefit.
Just as an aside - I suspect a good grade Ethernet cable will help at the Nuclues to Router end and obviously at the Roon end point.
I would say it could be of benefit, rather than would - very much depends on all components in the system and interactions and whether this results in any audible difference. If you can buy a linear PSU risk free (with a full refund on return) to try in your own system, that’s ideal. I think Teddy allows returns - check with him.
If I had to guess (I have no expertise), I’d guess that Teddy and sBooster do pay attention to the important stuff like RF filtering and low leakage currents etc.
If you mean an audiophile ethernet cable it could make things worse if it’s shielded and the shield allows for a nice ground / leakage current loop through your DAC …
The most I would ever spend on an ethernet cable is the Belden 10GX series Cat 6 (unshielded) cable, which is what Blue Jeans Cable use for their Cat 6 cable.
Spec of Teddy Pardo 18/2 is fully complies with the spec of Sbooster BOTW P&P ECO 18-19V MKII i.e. 36W
The BOTW P&P ECO 18-19V has a maximum continuous output rating of 36W. Please use following guidelines to determine the power consumption of your system.
but the noise level is less and the quality is better .
The BOTW P&P ECO power supply can be used as an upgrade for PC based systems that have a processor with a TDP of max 25W. There are over 200 Intel processors on the market that meet this requirement, see Intel
The “N”, “J”, “i3” en “i5” and “i7” Intel processors can be powered by the 18-19V BOTW P&P ECO, I.e.:
Type NUC Processor
N
Intel NUC NUC5CPYH Intel Celeron N3050
Intel NUC NUC5PPYH Intel Pentium N3700
Intel NUC NUC6CAYH Intel Celeron J3455
i3
Intel NUC DC3217IYE Intel Core i3-3217U
Intel NUC D34010WYKH Intel Core i3-4010U
Intel NUC NUC5i3RYH Intel Core i3-5010U
Intel NUC NUC5i3RYH Intel Core i3-5010U
Intel NUC NUC6i3SYH Intel Core i3-6100U
Intel NUC NUC7i3DNXX Intel Core i3-7100U
Intel NUC NUC7i3BNHXF Intel Core i3-7100U
i5
Intel NUC D54250WYK Intel Core i5-4250U
Intel NUC NUC5i5RYH Intel Core i5-5250U
Intel NUC Kit NUC5i5MYHE Intel Core i5-5300U
Intel NUC NUC6i5SYK Intel Core i5-6260U
Intel NUC NUC6i5SYH Intel Core i5-6260U
Intel NUC NUC7i5DNXX Intel Core i5-7300U Intel NUC NUC7i5BNHXF Intel Core i5-7260U
