Old habits die hard

Been using Arc since August and I still automatically click the Roon app when I want to check now playing or change track rather. It’s just instinctive and annoying as ARC will just stop as soon as it launches. I guess using Roon on my phone is embedded in my brain, ARC is not. I hope for a unified app one day but have little hope. My brain is struggling to retrain itself. 1st world problem I know but I literally do it once a day generally on the way home when I am tired from a days work.

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Why don’t you have Arc on your phone on the first page and put Roon on the second or in a folder then you will have to navigate extra steps to get to Roon.
Not being able to see Roon may mean you select Arc.

Because I use my phone as my main remote when home why make it harder for that. Arc is on the same page it’s just I go to Roon instinctively each time. It’s all Roon to me, in the end I just don’t want the separate identify I guess it’s always grated with me.

That sounds familiar. :joy:

Doesn’t help that I have grouped similar apps together on my iPhone . Roon and ARC sitting next to each other.

I really should delete Roon as my shiny new iPad has become my new controller for everything including Roon.

I waver a bit on if they should be one app or two. I only listen to ARC in my car. And if it’s not ARC it would be Spotify. Also not Roon.

Roon is already a complex app with a fair amount of complexity that doesn’t apply to ARC. And ARC has functionality that doesn’t apply to me listening to my HIFI system…

I like that that Roon and ARC provide the same input to the Roon algos. And I don’t mind that I have to bring up a different app in my car vs my living room. I’m leaning toward the opinion that if separating them makes each more simple, then that is worth something.

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The main reason I was struggling to pull the plug on Roon, I was not comfortable with two apps. I don’t find it consumer friendly.

Because of my environment changes this doesn’t change what I want from a Roon music app. Whilst I use ARC it’s simpleness frustrates me, finding stuff is often a headache as it lacks the core Roon stuff that makes traversing a large library tolerable and often rewarding. Finding new music is just as important to me in or out of home and I miss not having access to Qobuz new releases section. It just makes arc not that great an experience as I have to leave it to do this task.

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This is where we differ. For me, when listening via ARC its in the car. Or in a golf cart. Or playing pickleball listening through a Bluetooth speaker. In these places, I don’t care about the things I care about when in my primary listening area.

Not to minimize your concerns, we have different expectations. But that brings up another point: did Roon set expectations in their marketing of ARC? I honestly don’t know. Did they position it as “All of Roon but Remote!” Or did they position it as “Want Roon in your car? Here you go!” I’m relatively new to Roon and have no idea of what their positioning of ARC has been, or if it has been coherently marketed at all.

It was sold as Roon on the go, it’s ver much Roon lite on the go in reality.