I have done a mass clean up of the tags using mp3tag software (artist, composer corrections mainly)
But even after the correction and doing a force re-scan via “Storage” the wrong tags still show up as below
Searching for artist “Swarnalatha” brings up a couple of junk artists which does not exist in the metada data of the library.
An example below where it proves “Humming(Swarnalatha)” doesnt exist in the metadata of the file shown by Roon
Roons search is by the cloud it looks up content locally and via any streaming service you have connected to it not your local library only. It’s a global search.
Also when you add an album to Roon any other contributing artists will also be added to your library of artists.
So it will find similar matches to them your searching for a name it will match any instances it finds and weight them to Roons own distinct algorithm. It won’t return just what your enter.
What you’re seeing is normal for a search. They are not garbage. For locals files in your library your best using the Artist or Albums pages and use the filter which is second hour glass below the first one. This will show only local media. Or you can narrow you global search by clicking Books icon near the search window to show results just from your library.
Roon will not show just one result in any search unless nothing else similar exists. This has nothing to do with your metadata at all.
Hi @CrystalGipsy
In fact I havent added any streaming services to Roon. Im only using Indian regional content which are 99% Audio CD rips of my own collection.
Also for the junk artists that I have given in the above example if I go to the respective album, click 3 dots , edit and rescan that disappears. These junk were previously present in the metada data of the songs which I ripped from CD and later I corrected
Then do a library clean up via the settings library section. Should remove any rogue entries. If you edited the metadata with files in situation then it might be best to remove them from Roon ( just move them out of your watched folder) , do a library clean up and then re add them.
I don’t think so. But I would like to be proven wrong if there is a remedy. Roon is completely littered with junk artists in all genres. A common problem is “compound artists” of collaborators.
All genres are affected. With local content it is possible to follow the links and edit out the junk artists as you seem to have tried. You can even do entire batches of search and replace in mp3tag. For example globally replace “,” with “;”. With stubborn examples like yours what you can try is “merging” artists. I don’t know if you have already tried this? That often gets rid of these junk artists. Roon does have some basic equivalencing logic that auto-merges artists in foreground but this is mainly for equivalencing host country naming with Americanizations. For example Berliner Philharmoniker with Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra or Sergei Rachmaninoff with Sergey Rachmaninov. But if anything equivalencing has got much worse in recent years. Or that is what I have noticed anyway.
If you have a streaming subscription then this is quite hopeless. There have been various change requests over the years. I don’t think this will ever be addressed but I would like to be proved wrong or maybe there is a workaround I am unaware of. I rather suspect this is also a contributor to poorer performance in larger libraries. That is, performance is not declining linearly with library size, but more exponentially as additional pre/post metadata processing like equivalencing accumulates.
Don’t do that you will delete your entire database.
Did you remove it first, clean up then added back. This usually clears this up. If you changed metadata after adding an album to Roon it often gets mixed up and won’t update even if you change it. Only way is to fully remove it. You may also need to delete each of the incorrect artists if they are still present.
This is one of the reasons I havent added a streaming service. My adding music locally ( I have plenty of local music to listen for moer than a life time) I have full control.
If I find anything that interests me in Qobuz I purchase it, re-edits the tags and add it locally
“Prefer File” is nothing more than the wish to prefer file metadata if a specific datum is present online from Roon’s database and in the file. It does not have and never had the meaning of “use file metadata only”. Roon will always make use of its own online metadata too. This is especially true for list data like album credits (for an exact match the file version{'s spelling] is used but all other entries in the list get added too). See also:
I think we are confuing with the actual problem.
The problem that I reported is not even metadata being pulled from Cloud/Web.
The problem is wrong metadata thats existed on local files got corrected, but they still appear in Roon database eventhough a re-scan of the folder is done.
The wrong artists names that I reported dont even exist on the web
Go ahead and try it, then report your findings. A metadata refresh should in any case be far less taxing than an initial import (with media analysis) of an unknown library.
You did (report it), it is probably just the wrong place. Here is for reporting false metadata provided by third-parties (allmusic/TiVo, MusicBrainZ, streaming partners). You, as it looks like currently, seem to have an issue with Roon Server itself – should probably be in Support instead.
I hope a staff member will soon move your thread (or provide insight about your issue here).
