Thank you, Connor. This is very helpful. I didn’t mention that this has been going on for some time and I was simply doing a work-around by using Tidal.
Also, even though it did not solve the problem, Robert’s analysis and his explanation of how Tidal works c.f. Roon ARC was also very helpful.
This morning I tried to trick the situation by skipping the first song and then go back to the beginning of the album. The first song played, the second song started and I thought: this is a solution. But then it stopped after the second song
This morning I wanted to avoid the stopping after one song so I used Tidal instead of Arc. Guess what: it stopped after one song. Where Arc just stops, Tidal also gave a warning: Unexpected network error.
Maybe the root of the problem is in Tidal. I will test this the coming days and come back with the results. Maybe @grzlybear and others can check this too?
Just to confirm, the precise symptom of the endless spinner occurs with local track as well as streaming service tracks?
Let’s take another step back. RoonServer diagnostic logs, which we reviewed alongside ARC reports, seem to indicate constant network connection errors that often result in dropouts on your local Zones. If your RoonServer machine doesn’t have a stable upstream connection, then ARC will struggle to load local content, and may also lose authentication to Tidal’s servers mid-session.
How is your RoonServer connecting to the internet? Is it hardwired to your router, or is it behind a layer-2/3 switch or mesh node? There appear to be multiple network connections on the machine, indicating a second active network interface or VPN. If RoonServer is switching between connections it will lose sight of both ARC and your endpoints.
Let’s diagnose the network in this thread. In the meantime, the developers are investigating this case further behind the scenes.
Hi Connor,
Appreciate the reply and effort of the team.
Yes, the spinner is happening with both streaming and local files.
My router is connected directly to my server via Ethernet cable.
My internet is quite capable and is 1Gb down / 300Mb up.
I haven’t noticed any problems with my local zones beyond the occasional windows hiccup or rpi’s requiring a restart.
I sometimes enable vpn on my server for work and that disconnects roon but I figured that was understandable as it blocks local traffic as well.
I did notice that whenever I would make a change to my network setup like enabling vpn or tinkering with my router (I was attempting to enable ipv6 with no success), roon arc wouldn’t recover and had to be reinstalled to pick up the new configuration.
I’ve also tried tunneling into my network with my router’s vpn solution and that works great, even the android roon remote client can play anything on my phone. I don’t like having a vpn on at all times on my phone as thay seems to interfere with banking apps or stuff that relies on location. In addition, enabling a vpn just to listen to music is a bit of a hassle so using the tidal app instead is just more convenient.
Not sure this at all helps but bottom line no complaints from me on the local network performance, only Arc seems to give me trouble, and the problems have really gotten worse since I’ve reinstalled my server and restored my roon db.
Playback pauses intermittently when streaming from Qobuz
Describe your network setup
My network setup has not changed since this issue started happening so it should not be relevant. The issue only started since the latest Android release of ARC.
Thank you for the report. We’ve activated diagnostics to investigate what ARC is reporting in logs, but we want to verify that we’re reviewing the same event/symptom you’ve described.
Can you share the name (or approximate timestamp played) of a 1) Qobuz track that stopped during playback and a 2) downloaded track that stopped during playback .
Please test the downloaded track with “Offline mode” toggled on in ARC. The timestamp only needs to be accurate to within ~5-10 minutes.
I can’t seem to reproduce this issue anymore. It must have gone away on its own. Thanks for your help though! To anyone out there with this same issue, I suggest restarting your device.
It happened a few times while I was listening to the track “Unfree My Soul” by Leprous, a few minutes ago. This was streamed over Qobuz. When it happens with a downloaded track I will report back with that info.