Theoretically, it should be possible to sort albums by playback frequency, either ascending or descending. But it’s not working yet! Among the supposedly most frequently played albums, there are many that I rarely or never listen to. Some of these so-called top hits can be explained because certain tracks from those albums are included in playlists that I actually use a lot. However, this view also constantly contains many, many albums that I don’t listen to at all or just very occasionally. On the other hand, some albums that I play relatively often are found far down on the list.
Has anyone else noticed this? Is this a known bug? What can I do?
If these albums that are sorted „too low“ or „too high“ are very long or short, then this may be a result of the weighting of play time vs play count that has recently been discussed here:
which lead to this:
If this doesn’t explain it, anyone who wants to contribute ideas for possible explanations will need more concrete examples of what you see.
Doesn’t explain my case. My top hit is an album I have never played in years, possibly never since I own roon.
The only theoretical but actually impossible explanation would be something leaving that album on “repeat” and then leaving for a two week vacation
But the jokes aside: even that very unrealistic scenario is impossible since I normally unplug my streaming clients when I’m on vacation. And in most cases, whenever we visit grandparents holiday home, I even take the roon core with me. Furthermore this does not affect only one album.
I can’t think of any plausible explanation which is exactly why I’m posting here.
Then I don’t think that’s a known issue, at least I can’t recall it being mentioned.
Why do you need to guess? The play count of each track is shown to the right of the track in the album’s track list. (Note: only on PC and tablet, not on phone)
I don’t think I understand your problem well. Like I said, actual examples would have helped, you are leaving us all to guess and to try and read your mind.
My understanding was that albums are in a sort position that seems inconsistent with the play count (the remembered number of plays or the play count value that is displayed), because you wrote that “sorting doesn’t work”. You never mentioned the count value.
Now I think I misunderstood and it seems that the sorting as such works, based on the count value (if it were correct), but the real problem is that the play count values are not what you think they should be.
If the latter is the case, I definitely never saw another post where this was caused by a Roon bug. All similar cases I recall were caused by tracks playing in the background to some silent zone, or stuff like that. That doesn’t mean that such a Roon bug can’t exist, but as it doesn’t happen to me and I can’t remember any other cases, I am out of ideas.
I suggest you post your examples showing the issue you mention. Show us the sort method being used and any focus criteria you have active.
Can’t say I have seen anything that’s not been played show up. You can have an album top the ranks by playing on track off it for ever. I’ve done this tested gapless on some albums when Roon had issues as did the extension I was using, these now show an unrealistic view of my play history but it is what it is. With Roon you don’t have to play a whole album for it to be counted as played or show up as most played.
Yes. There have been posts although I don’t keep track.
As far as I know roon is using play duration not play count to determine most played. That’s certainly the pattern I see. So, for example if I have a pop album I quite like with 10 tracks of 3 mins each and I have played the album through 4 times then that is a play duration of 120 mins. On the other hand, if I play a 3 hour avante garde opera once that I didn’t really like and skipped the boring and unlistenable bits, that is now “more played” than the pop album I liked. There can be a lot of anomalies like this, particularly if you listen to a lot of different styles of music with very different structures and durations and/or tend to listen to shuffles and playlists rather than albums.
With regards the albums that are rising to the top of your most played list, are you able to calculate the play duration from the track counts, even if you only ever play a few tracks, maybe relatively frequently, via playlists?
So, I found an explanation for a few aspects of the off behaviour. But still, it’s not an explanation for all the behavior Roon shows here.
My impression so far: Roon seems to just add title replays per album. So if one album contains a title that is part of a playlist that is being used very often, this album shows up ranked high. As an example: I never listen to Guns N’ Roses’s “Best of” as an album. Yet, for some reason, for a playlist I am using often, I picked one title of the best of album instead of picking the original album as a source for the track. That title got replayed 111 times because of that playlist. An album which I listen to much more often subjectively, an album which I’ve listened to 10 times completely and which contains 10 titles seems so sum up to 100 replays and is ranked lower than the album where only one title was played, but it was played 111 times in total.
So I can understand part of the behavior. What I don’t understand: there are still a few albums, who are top title, but I never listen to these records and not one title they contain this part of any playlist.
And what’s strange furthermore: I never listen to Melody Gadot consciously. But one of her tracks is part of a “morning playlist” I am frequently using. Therefore, the Melody Gadot album, which contains this particular track is a top title. So, consequently should all of the other albums that contain titles which are to be found on said morning playlist. But none of them are. Very strange.
This part of the behavior was part of the discussions I linked in my first reply. (And in the feature suggestion thread, Roon staff asked for suggestions for what a better weighting algorithm sounds like like).
So what do the track play counts say, are they inexplicably high or are they low/zero but the album is nevertheless sorted too high?
Perhaps you have this album/track added to your library and the others are not actually added to your library? This would account for it as it should be only library stuff that shows up. If you using a focus. Any play shows up on the Home Page Top Albums section,
