@mark_perrin - if you are adding metadata using a third-party metadata editor, then of course it will end up as metadata in the local files themselves. If you are using Roon to add metadata, then Roon does not modify the local files in any way - all edits are contained in the Roon database.
If, in the future, you want to dump Roon, then you can Export your local files, and Roon will then, and only then, add the basic metadata into the exported files
Roon says “Unidentified” - so it hasn’t been able to find a match in its database in the cloud. When this happens, it falls back to looking at the file metadata and uses that.
That’s the info I tagged myself. Roon isn’t cross referencing it or doing anything useful with the info like it does with Eurythmics or other middle of the road stuff.
I can’t think of what useful info it could give about a middle of the road MOS release
As mentioned above I find it has extra info in about 50% of my dance/electronica but it doesn’t bother me.
Depends what you’re using Roon for though. For me it’s a library management system that ties together my local stuff and the streaming services and allows me to play anything back on any endpoint I have.
The extra info is nice when it’s there but it’s no biggy if not. Imo, ymmv etc applies
I can’t see why it wouldn’t easily find a well tagged middle of the road MOS release. there’s no excuse for that. even when it finds some of the albums it splits them into multiple albums with random tracks. Regrouping them seems to be a learning curve all within itself which I’m struggling to figure out.
I thought the point of roon was that it uses the metadata to cross reference with other albums to help discovery. if it isn’t tagged then it won’t work.
Sometimes you’ll find that Roon has marked these albums as “Unidentified”, which means it has done its best to import the tracks and group them into albums using the file metadata. If the metadata has errors, then this will likely trip Roon’s import process up. Other times, there may have been multiple releases of a particular album, often with varying numbers of tracks, and Roon has identified the wrong release.
Yes agree that if it isn’t tagged then discovery doesn’t work. Generally not so much of an issue for me on electronica as I have so much to go on through the years.
It is interesting what it does find though - for example it recognises JDJ International Vol 1 - Dimitri (before he became known as Dimitri from Paris) The Spiritual Mix and X-Mix 4 - Dave Angel for example and even links my own mixes as - By the same artist (makes me feel famous ) but not Trade Vol 3. So it certainly can find data on obscure stuff just not everything.
As I say for me it doesn’t matter - I have enough knowledge of that side of things anyway and rarely use the discover feature for it because I doubt it would find bootleg Squire of Gothos mixes anyway and it has guided me to plenty of stuff I didn’t know was available on Qobuz (the entire Shiggar Fraggar Show set for example).
But yes, if this is a make or break feature for you then perhaps give it a miss…
I have very nearly the complete set but am missing 14 I think (they didn’t do a 13 for superstition reasons) as well as all the International ones and DJ Rap - Journeys into Jungle - an offshoot they did just one CD of. JDJ International - Westbam Ich Bin Ein Bassliner just about takes it but vol 12 - Triptonite takes it - the Tomislav CD from that is just brilliant.
My Billy Nasty (Vol 1 and the first ever commercially released mix CD) one is signed too - cos I’m a geek like that and had the opportunity to thrust it under his nose one time
As @freelancr pointed out, that Kate Bush track seems a bit odd at 32m:28s long. As it happens, I’ve just bought The Other Sides on CD, and used Roon to rip the 4CD set. That 4th CD has 9 tracks, which totals 32m:24s:
Full disclosure: as I said earlier in this thread, Roon sometimes needs help to identify the correct release, particularly with boxsets. Once I had used Roon to rip all four CDs in this set, it had matched one CD, but the other three were not identified: