Hello to see if you can give me a cable because I’m losing my mind already …
On the pc, a nuc with windows, I have installed Roon for a long time, from where I played either with my old mobile, an android, or from the android tablet that I also have, both local music from my hard drive
like qobuz sending the music to a Denon 4500 AVR.
The Denon 4500 I have connected via ethernet cable to the router, and every time I sent a file with roon to the avr to listen to it, it would send me the file as is, without losses, that is, if a song was going to 96khz, then to 96 that
he sent it to me.
I recently bought an iPhone and a homepod and since I was sending music from the iphone to the denon through airplay using apple music and qobuz no longer works well for me, now when I control something from the android and roon tablet,
He sends it to me through airplay !!!
in fact in the avr it says “airplay” and in ROON in speakers it says that the denon 4500 is sent through airplay … and I have no way to remove it, I don’t know what else to do. How can I tell roon that it is not an airplay device?
The problem is that airplay is capped at 44.1 or 48khz, I do not remember exactly, and of course now when I send a song at 96khz from roon when doing it with airplay I lower it to 44.1 … and in those I am , I don’t know how to remove it
denon about airplay.
You sure you about this. Denon’s only support Airplay to work with Roon over Ethernet to my knowledge. I see Google.Home can control it but it doesn’t mention Chromecast support which is possible to go to 96/24 in some cases. Where you connecting via USB or HDMI before direct from the PC? If not then you have always had Airplay and been limited to 44 1 as Airplay can’t go higher.
Thanks for the answers. I am attaching a photo of what I get in the configuration, there it tells me that Denon 4500 works through airplay, that before having the iPhone did not come out like that. I have the denon connected directly via ethernet to the router, the same router that I have the pc connected to. And in the following photo you can see how the quality drops to send it by airplay, before I did not, before I sent it well, surely because I like to look at it, before I did not send it by airplay, that is what I do not understand. I think today I will factory reset the Denon to see if it is solved. very thanks.
That is expected via Airplay thats the only way you can send music to it from Roon unless you use HDMI out USB from the NuC directly to the Denon’s inputs. There is no other way for Roon to play to it unless you have another device connected to it or your core it’s not Roon Ready and doesn’t support Chromecast.
Sorry if I don’t express myself well, I’m using the translator. I’m looking for some screenshots that I made of roon before I had the iphone but I can’t find them, two weeks ago everything was fine, the denon is not connected by hdmi or usb, they are in different rooms, both things are connected to the same router. Before he sent me the file as is, without using airplay, but now nothing at all, there is no way. I will try to restore the denon and I will tell you if it is solved.
Dont worry about your English I understand you fine. I will be surprised if it’s any different as there is no other way for it to send music via Roon on Denon’s. Unless it supports Chromecast/GoogleCast. You would have had to enable Airplay your self to get Roon to use it, it can’t activate on its own. So if you have changed nothing it must have been using Airplay before.
Have you been using any bridging software such as RooUPnP or LMS2UPnP?
Of course that’s what I mean, because two weeks ago I bought an iPhone and I was sending music to Denon from the iPhone through airplay, and since then it appears to me that Denon is an airplay device and I don’t know how to remove it, and in Roon I get that it is airplay. everything is since I bought the iphone two weeks ago, until then everything was fine.
As a test:
Disable Airplay and if available Chromecast in Roon Audio settings and see what you get.
I expect that you do not see the Denon as an audio endpoint at all.
Is HEOS capable of using Roon as a source? Can’t imagine that it does.
What happens if you go back to the Android tablet?
Thanks for the help. How can I disable airplay? I’m looking for it but I can’t find it, actually I have never been able to activate any airplay option I simply sent music to the denon from the iphone using airplay but now, leaving the iphone in airplane mode, airplay continues to come out.
Now I am using the android tablet with roon installed to send the music, as I had always done, but it sends it to me through airplay, which I do not understand, I think that heos does not interfere here, with heos all I do is turn on the denon and I am now moving to the roon app, as always, and it has always worked well for me … until the arrival of the iphone. I think after lunch I will try to reset the factory to see what happens. and again, thank you so much for the help.
Your phone does not send Airplay for Roon. The core does this. This I why I am saying you must have had it enabled before the iPhone or you would not have been able to use the Denon with Roon. I don’t think your really understanding how Roon is working with your Denon. Nothing will have changed with a change of phone. Roon on any control device can only send music to your Denon using Airplay this does not come from the phone at all, you Roon core uses Airplay to send it over the network to your Denon. This would be the same on Android or a Pc or Mac.
ok ok ok, let’s see, in parts.
I think I know what happened to me.
I think that when I saw in the roon flow that I was getting the music as is, without lowering to 44.1khz, it was when I was playing music from the computer, since I have a dac connected directly by usb of up to 192khz. so if the only way he sends music to denon roon is through airplay, I suppose I have always been down to 44.1khz … well, what a disappointment I just got.
I have been informing myself on the internet and the only solution would be to send the music from the computer to the denon by UPNP, and from what I see the only one that does that is AUDIRVANA.
In fact I have installed the free trial and it actually works perfectly, the denon appears (without airplay) and when I play a file at 96khz or 192khz it sends it to me as is to the denon !!! so much to my regret because I was already used to roon but I think I’m going to have to migrate to audirvana.
Many thanks to all colleagues for your help, really, you have helped me a lot, THANK YOU.
If you have a PC running roon connected to your denon using a dac then select that pc as the playback zone using your iphone as remote. Roon will play from that pc/dac bit -perfect to your denon.
If you want to enjoy the Roon interface for managing your music and listen through the Denon, there is a very simple fix.
Get yourself a RPi4 kit, get a matching digital HAT and run it with a free software like Ropieee. With that you establish a bridge between the Denon and the Roon system. No need to leave Roon bcs your Denon does not support Hi-Res audio.
Here is the list of items and it is truly plug&play except that you need to flash a memory card. You can buy this quick and easy at Hifiberry.com or at aretailer in your country.
