I’d like to open a discussion on a potential enhancement for Roon: the integration of AI technology to revolutionize our search and playlist features.
As it stands, our search function operates on basic string matching. Imagine if searching “Female Singer” could intelligently yield results from across genres, tailored to your listening history. An AI could analyze and understand the context, significantly refining the search outcomes.
Furthermore, the AI could dynamically create playlists. Picture requesting “Female Rock Singers from the 80s” and receiving a curated playlist, seamlessly blending songs from your local library with Roon’s extensive database. The real game-changer here is the AI’s ability to weight these selections based on your personal favorites – tracks and albums you’ve loved and played frequently in Roon. This would offer a deeply personalized listening experience, constantly evolving with your tastes.
Another innovative feature that AI integration could offer in Roon is “Mood-Based Music Discovery”. This feature would utilize AI to analyze the emotional content of tracks in your library and Roon’s database. It would allow users to search and generate playlists based on specific moods or emotional states, like “relaxing”, “energetic”, or “melancholic”.
Imagine being able to tell Roon, “Play something uplifting,” and the AI curates a playlist tailored to your taste but also fitting that mood criteria, based on the emotional tone of the music and your past listening preferences. This would add an entirely new, personalized dimension to music discovery and enjoyment in Roon.
This AI integration isn’t just about smarter searching; it’s about enriching our connection with music through a more intuitive and customized interface. I’m excited to hear your thoughts on how AI could transform our Roon experience.
I understand the concerns around AI, often centered around privacy and overreach. However, envisioning AI in Roon more as a large trained language model, akin to what we see in advanced chatbots or search algorithms, might paint a different picture. This kind of AI wouldn’t intrude on privacy or autonomy but would act more as an intelligent assistant, enhancing user experience with personalized, interactive features.
Also, implementing such AI as an opt-in feature could address privacy concerns. Users interested in a more interactive, AI-enhanced experience could opt in, while others could continue using Roon as it is. This approach would respect individual preferences while embracing technological advancements.
Absolutely, Valence is indeed a significant first step towards integrating AI in Roon. However, I see it more as the foundation upon which a much broader and interactive AI functionality can be built. Currently, Valence is largely unidirectional, offering recommendations based on passive user interactions like likes, listening habits and library content. What I envision is a more dynamic system where users can actively and directly interact with the AI, essentially using Valence as a sophisticated controller interface for AI APIs. This active engagement could unlock immense potential, transforming Roon from a traditional music library into an innovative, AI-driven music exploration platform, ensuring its relevance in the rapidly evolving tech landscape.
Yes, I can only assume based on the brief responses you’ve provided. It seems there might be some misunderstanding about the AI proposal. It’s not about creating a Skynet-like entity but enhancing user experience within Roon using AI. I’d genuinely like to understand your concerns or reasons for refusal. Could you elaborate on specific aspects of AI integration in Roon that concern you?
Additionally, to clarify, my AI proposal is more aligned with integrating large language models, similar to advanced chatbots, into Roon. These models are designed to enhance user interaction by providing intelligent, context-aware responses and suggestions, not to control or intrude.
Assumptions are usually a bad idea. I am not concerned about privacy issues relating to your proposal, more that they offer nothing that would ‘enhance’ the way I want to interact with Roon. Now, if AI could help search work properly, that might be a different proposition, but I suspect our views of what search should do might differ.
Plexamp does this really well already via OpenAI API’s - Plex call it Sonic Sage and it is essentially a natural language playlist builder that utilises the albums in your music library and importantly including in Tidal if you have a linked account. I find it amusing mostly and useful for a “different” music discovery at times
Not to mention the benefits of automatic new music discovery. I also waste a considerable amount of time deciding what I want to listen to based on my mood.
I would welcome this. RoonAIDJ does not do a consistently good job with classical or Jazz. But I do love the idea of queries like:
Play 10 songs similar to the Adagietto in Mahler’s 5th, and Open AI nails it with excellent results that are not necessarily tied to the romantic era or Adagios in general.
I use OpenAI to discover symphonic composers often overlooked by typical search engines. I would love an AI interface to roon that you can pass queries to in the form of the one mentioned above, or the likes of:
I like Mahler and Brahms. can you recommend other Romantic era composers?
I like Buckethead’s ‘Earth is Dying.’ Can you find songs with a similar style?
I hate Peg, but I love “Deacon Blues.” Can you provide a playlist of other Steely Dan songs similar to ‘Deacon Blues,’ but nothing like ‘Peg’?
Currently, OpenAI is amazing. I upload my Roon catalog and create amazing playlists from it. I would love an AI integration that does the above and is also aware of my catalog, but not limited to it. I had hoped for RoonAIDJ, but the results are clunky and rarely execute well.
Can you say more specifically what you mean by “Upload my Roon Catalog”, and then when OAI generates a playlist, how do you get it in? Do you have it generate a playlist file? Is it making a playlist only among tracks in your catalog?
Cheers,
Rob
I export my albums and tracks from Roon. I then upload them to OpenAI, and request play lists as m3u files and upload them to roon (via placing them in the music directory) Its a manual pain in the butt. I would love all this to be integrated. Imagine the ability to query the room the way I mentioned, and it creates playlists and such.