Qobuz on Nucleus or Endpoint Streamer

I have a Roon Nucleus. For endpoints I have a Lumin U2 mini connected via digital coax to my AVM 90 for my main system and also have several Sonos speakers for audio around the house, In addition I use Roon Arc with my phone and airpods around the yard a lot and also in my car when on the road.

My question is this: I have my local music on a NAS and the nucleus pointing to that local library. I also stream Qobuz and have that setup in the nucleus. Should I instead have Qobuz setup on the Lumin u2 streamer and the Sonos connected to Qobuz instead of the nucleus?

Thank you in advance for any advice on this. Hopefully I explained things clearly but am happy to rephrase if my question is not clear.

If you want to use the Roon features with Qobuz, your only option is to log into Qobuz within Roon

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Thanks for the reply. So even if logged into Qobuz with my lumin streamer I would still have to log into Qobuz on the nucleus?

By roon features do you mean the DSP and/or the general browsing experience using roon?

Yes. In Roon’s :gear: > Services screen, login to Qobuz…

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Everything in Roon. If you don’t log into Qobuz in the Roon settings, Roon will not see Qobuz at all

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Thank you. Thats how I have it now. I wanted to make sure I am doing things correctly. On my sonos endpoints and lumin U2 mini endpoint I am not logged into Qobuz at all on them. Wondering if I should log in/connect those endpoints to qobuz as well. Sound benefit or performance benefit wise on the lumin.

Reason I asked my original question was I have read several people saying you should not use your “core” as the streamer. In my case my nucleus+. I may be confussing connecting the core to the streaming service (Qobuz) with actually using my core as the streamer.

To be clear my nucleus+ is only connected via ethernet cable (I do not use the hdmi outs or USB ports). I stream from the Lumin U2 mini via digital coax to my processor and on the sonos they are connect ethernet as well,

What they probably meant is: you shouldn’t make a direct connection between the Nucleus and the DAC. With direct, they would mean: USB.
Because you stream your music over the network, digitally, to your Lumin, you should not worry about this.

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Great thanks. Thats what I was thinking, but I feel much better now knowing for sure. Appreciate everyone taking the time to respond.

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No real benefit, unless you have a rather bad network connection, and the built-in app can buffer more data, hiding network glitches that RAAT would expose. Other than that it will play exact same bits from Qobuz.

Usability-wise, on my Rose streamers, I sometimes use built-in Qobuz client because I know what I want, and do not feel like walking over to a PC or phone to play the same thing through Roon.

People say lots of things, but with a decent player (I assume Lumin is one) there would be no sonic difference. On the other hand, if it has any useful/fun display, you would not get that with a USB connection but would with network.

You can do that using the same Qobuz account without affecting Roon (if you want to A/B compare the sound via the two pathways, or want to check out Lumin app GUI for Qobuz), just avoid playing Qobuz at the same time using both Roon and Lumin app.

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Thanks Peter. Could there actually be a difference? I guess a/b’ing would answer that for me:) In my setup now music goes through the Lumin and to my processor via digital coax. I believe the way I am setup my local music will also be sent through the lumin before hitting the processor, The way I think of it (and I hope I am correct) is the nucleus is kind of like the conductor in that it pulls down the Qobuz stream or pulls local music from my NAS and sends it over network to the lumin. I love my Lumin U2 mini and am upgrading to the Lumin U2. I found the Lumin to have made a big difference in my system. I was actually contemplating setting the Lumin to Roon only mode since I never use the Lumin app and have the lumin upsampling set how I like it. I may just leave as is though. I did experiment a bit with having roon and the nucleus do the upsampling but one would think the Lumin would do a better job.

Not really, but sometimes there is a loudness difference that people don’t control for, and then they think there is a sound quality difference.

There may also be DSP at play in Roon or the endpoint, which might influence things.

Exactly

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