Roon 2.0 broke Roon Remote

Ok, I found apk file with 2.0 Remote. But anyway , it would be good to have update possibility from Roon page , not external .

Yes, it was necessary to delete Roon-remote on iPhone and install it again to switch to remote-version 2.0. No update found in App Store.

There is no new 2.0 Roon Remote for iPad. After I updated Roon server to 2.0, the Roon Remote on my iPad stopped working (could not connect to the new 2.0 server). To use Roon Remote on my iPad again, I had to delete the previously installed Roon Remote from my iPad. Download and relaunch the Roon Remote.

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There is a Roon Remote for iPad. It’s Roon 2.0 on the Apple App Store version 2.0.01127.

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This is an absolutely unacceptable disposition.

Given that the Roon server was updated via phone (it wasn’t clear that it was a ‘major’ upgrade) - had that been realized, this upgrade WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN DONE, at least not without reading the release notes. From the small ‘box’ of information that is presented, it was not clear that this was a major upgrade - thus it appeared like any other minor upgrade notice and didn’t think twice about hitting the update selection. Would strongly recommend that major version upgrades have some sort of color/font/… variation that is strikingly different from an incremental update. It should be reasonable for one to assert that an incremental update should be applied (even if mildly detrimental) while Roon folks work out the kinks and quickly provide a subsequent update. This is certainly not that.

Apparently, now one MUST run/accept/allow ARC. Whatever ‘connection’ is going on to exfiltrate data triggers IDS/IPS gear to immediate block the connection to/from the Roon server. Where is the disable option for ARC? This should not be mandatory, especially given lack of complete transparency and the ability to audit what is traversing this logical VPN connection.

Finally, decided to uninstall on each/every device to revert. However, the current issue is - how does one ‘revert’ for the application on an iPhone? iPad? etc… Apparently only the 2.0 application is available for install.

EDIT: The legacy app v1.8 is listed under the developer in the App store. However, it is constantly crashing within a few seconds of running. Re-deleted app and re-installed, now seems to be back to stable.

This is becoming a bit cumbersome and not leaving a particularly good impression.

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Maybe I’m missing something. I don’t have a use for ARC now, so have not installed it.

However, I was able to update to Roon 2.0 on my iMac, iPhone and iPad. First I updated the iMac. When I opened the app in either the iPhone or iPad, there was a message indicating the latest version on Roon core and provided a link to update the mobile apps. No problems for mac users.

So my Android phone updated to 2.0 I guess, now it refuses to connect to my Core unless I upgrade it.

So what are we supposed to do if we don’t upgrade to 2.0? Do we have to upgrade to 2.0 and force back to 1.8 legacy? Just install Legacy over the 1.8 we have installed? Go find new software?

Since my Core is running on Windows 7, and 2.0 drops support, I don’t think I can upgrade-then-downgrade without risking failure in the middle.

Is there not an Android legacy version of the Roon Remote on their app store? For Apple it’s called Roon Remote (Legacy).

The Apple App Store was a little behind the MacOS Roon 2.0 updates, but I was able to update my iPhone to 2.0 within about an hour and all is working fine. I am just waiting for my ISP to port forward the incoming Roon ARC connection to the outside IP address of my router and can then port forward to my Roon Core and I should be golden for ARC as well.

I probably won’t use ARC that widely as I have virtually none of my own content, but that day will come and having the ability to natively integrate my local library and download to my iPhone for remote play is super cool.

I may have the use case to keep on with Roon after the end of my current year’s subscription. No issues at all so far with the updates and having native Apple silicon support should hopefully make things even better on my Mac mini core and iMac Roon remote. Happy days :slight_smile:

You don’t have to do anything with Roon ARC if you don’t want to use it. Just don’t install the Roon ARC app on your phone. You also don’t need to fool with your router.

The Roon 2.0 update on your Roon core should happen automatically with no issues. Then, install the Roon Remote 2.0 app on your control devices from the app store.

The Roon 2.0 update has been splashed all over the internet and emails to Roon customers for weeks if not months.

The Roon Remote apps for iPhone and iPad for Roon 1.8 are on the App Store as Roon Remote (Legacy).

I have no music files and stream from Tidal and Qobuz. I use Roon ARC when walking my dog and in the car with CarPlay. It works with the “Now Playing” screen. Since it’s free, I rather use it than the Tidal and/or Qobuz apps.

My problem is that while, yes, there is a “legacy” app, it now appears to require a different Core. I either have to upgrade the Core to 2.0 to use the app that my phone automatically (dumbly) updated…

Or, I have to (apparently) apply the legacy RoonServer Core “update” to use the legacy app. Neither app on the phone works with the (until yesterday) up-to-date Room 1.8 Core.

So until I have time to futz with the Core, I’m out of luck. And no pre-warning.
-Alan

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Well free as included in your subscription as are the Tidal and Qobuz apps but I am glad you’re enjoying the Roon freedom :slightly_smiling_face:

Roon ARC seems free to me since I paid $500 for Roon lifetime almost 3 years ago. I got Roon ARC a few weeks ago and haven’t received a bill.

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Confused. In which app is the “troubleshooting” section? I press the cog in ARC to go into settings but there is nothing to do with external access there. I have opened 55000 on my router but I cant see where to place the external address. :\ I have static IP and a domain name that resolves internally/externally so this should all work, theres just nowhere to enter the details. Android 12 client.

ARC access is setup on the main Core using the standard Client.

Agree you should be able to disable ARC. I doubt many have considered the security implications and the potential vuneralabiliies that could be introduced to home networks.

Further I don’t understand the reasoning for the update. Does anyone really want to stream files from a roon core remotely? Why not just replicate functionality on ARC and stream what is available via Qobuz, Tidal etc.

If you mean, have Roon decide that the version of FM’s “Rumours” in my local library is the same as what is on Qobuz and stream that instead of the specific mastering I have in my library. Then no that is not what I would want.

Evidently, a lot of people want to stream their local content to their phone. Danny said it’s the top requested feature. Roon responded to their customers.

Fair enough but the reality may well prove different. It is hard to imagine that a high res audio file streamed via Roon at home to a phone (away from the home) will sound any better than that from a streaming service such as Qobuz/Tidal. The propensity for drop outs is another issue along with data consumption on a mobile network.

Is that how most would use it or am I missing something?

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