· I am currently using a MS NUC PC for my Roon Core. Lately it just randomly disappears from the network. I am guessing that it is starting to fail and am considering purchasing one of your Nexus One units. Can I just take the SSD drive (with all my music on it) out of the NUC and install it in the Nexus One?
Tell us about your home network
· Router is a T-Mobile wireless router via a DECO Mesh
I assume that you mean a Nucleus One, not a Nexus One?
But you say you are currently using an “MS NUC PC”?
Do you mean that you are using Microsoft Windows as the operating system on the NUC? If so, then you will NOT be able to simply take out the 2.5" SSD from the NUC and install it in a Nucleus One. The RoonOS of the Nucleus One will need to reformat the SSD.
However, if you have a ROCK/NUC system, then yes, you should be able to take the 2.5" SSD with your music on it out of your NUC and install it in a Nucleus ONE. It’s already been formatted by RoonOS in the NUC, so it should be recognised by the RoonOS of the Nucleus One.
It sounds like your NUC is definitely signaling that it’s ready for retirement. Moving to a Nucleus One is a great choice for stability.
Regarding your SSD transfer, there is a very important “catch” you need to be aware of to avoid losing your music:
If your current NUC is running Windows, your SSD is formatted for Windows (NTFS or exFAT). The Nucleus One runs RoonOS, a custom Linux-based system.
Internal Storage: When you install an SSD internally into a Nucleus One, the system must format that drive to its own file system (ext4) before it can use it.
The Risk: This formatting process will permanently erase everything currently on that drive.
Since you can’t just “plug and play” your internal Windows drive, here are your best options:
Use an External USB Drive or separate jump drive: If you have your music on an external USB hard drive, you can simply plug that into the back of the Nucleus. RoonOS can read external Windows-formatted drives without erasing them, or you can copy your music to a separate drive, move your current SSD to the Nucleus, format it, and copy the music to the internal memory.
The “Two-Step” Transfer: * Back up your music from the NUC to a separate external drive or cloud storage.
Install a fresh (or your old) SSD into the Nucleus One and let the Nucleus format it.
Copy the music back onto the Nucleus via your network.
Before you make the switch: Make sure you create a Roon Database Backup (Settings > Backup) from your current NUC and save it to a USB stick or cloud drive. You will need this to restore your playlists, play counts, and history once the Nucleus One is up and running.
Thank you, Geoff and apologies for my terminology. Nucleus ONE is correct and its running ROCK not Windows - I meant that the NUC was originally a Windows computer then repurposed!!!
Apologies, it is a NUC running ROCK not Windows. I don;t know if I can make a backup as it is no longer responding / visible on my network. Last time I had to get a new CORE I moved from one NUC to a new one and all I did was swap the RAM and SSD and all worked like magic. Was kind of hoping this would work equally as easily.
Not as easily. You can move the storage drive over, but, you cannot move the OS drive. The OS is different, RoonOS on the NUC and the version on Nucleus devices are not quite the same.
You could just get another NUC, so you can move your RAM and drives over.
Although, I think, figuring out why it has disappeared from the network is the better first step.
What is the make/model of the NUC?
Have you attached a monitor and keyboard to the NUC, if not, do so, boot it up and post a screen pic of what is displayed.
Hi and thanks for trying to help. Picture of my current NUC below. It will take a while for me to connect it to a screen - I’ll work on that and post photo later. If this does need replacing, I am reluctant to get another NUC. This will be my 3rd in 5 years. It runs extremely hot, is noisy…. and doesn’t seem to last very long; which is why I was considering the swap to a Necleus.
My setup. I have the NUC hardwired to my internet router and hardwired to a Cambridge Audio 851N. I also have a laptop and a desktop (both running Windows 10) connected via Wifi. All used to play together nicely but now none of them can find the ROON server - I just ‘waiting for ROON server’ message.
Not sure if its relivant but I’ve never been able to get ARC to work - apparently my T-mobile home internet router won’t allow the connection……..but this situation has been going on well before the NUC started playing up, so doubt it is related.
Now I have really confused myself. I seem to be able to play fine when I use my laptop or desktop PC’s as the remote. However, if I try to use my Android or Amazon Fire tablet (more convenient than getting the laptop out) neither of them can see the server. I just get the magnifying glass thingy moving around in circles.
Accessing IGMP Snooping in this specific setup usually involves the TP-Link Deco app, as the T-Mobile Home Internet gateways are notoriously limited in their user-accessible settings.
In most home setups involving a mesh system, the Deco is the device managing your local traffic. This is where you are most likely to find the toggle.
Open the TP-Link Deco app on your phone.
Tap the More icon (the four squares) in the bottom right corner.
Select Advanced.
Look for IPTV/VLAN.
Inside that menu, you should see a toggle for IGMP Snooping.
Note: In some firmware versions, this may be located directly under Advanced -> IGMP Snooping without the IPTV sub-menu.
Thank you, Benjamin. I tried following your instructions, but when I click on ‘ADVANCED’ step #3 - I do not get and option for IPTV/VLAN - what I see is: