Roon gave me the best new year’s present: it stopped working again!

Hmm. This is what I said in my original post…

Who exactly is telling you your doing it wrong?

Have you updated the dot net framework, there are Visual Studio updates almost monthly adding to the Net Core, but not framework.

Are we even sure Roon is using dot net framework or Net Core, strictly the framework is being phased out as far as I know

If memory allocation is an issue, reboot every day takes 5 mins …

I reboot daily for other reasons maybe why I have no issues on a Windows 10 platform …

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I maybe reboot weekly if there are windows updates… seldom kill the whole PC tho. If something odd is happening at worst its a roon server restart but thats very rare. Its a dedicated headless roon core only PC i7-7700 16GB Ram and 256GB SSD with 16TB drive for Music (~13.5TB used)

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Roon uses the open source implementation of Dot Net, Mono. I should not have to restart a dedicated server OS or process daily. That is unacceptable.

We suffer major lightning storms in summer, Johannesburg South Africa, so everything is powered down and disconnected from the mains every night. I once lost a lot of hi fi due to strike on a neighbours tree so I am doubly careful.

Not sure if helps but I have virtually zero stability issues with Roon

Yes, that is my conclusion too.

It will be interesting to see what 1.8 brings in terms of updated version of dot net, it has seen a lot of progress in the last two or three years.


I don’t know about Roon in the Windows environment, but with Linux or macOS, I reboot about once a month. On the Linux side, I reboot that often because there are updates to the system software that require reboots. On the macOS side, I reboot that often because my iMac runs better if I reboot on that schedule. With neither OS do I reboot monthly because of Roon.

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Hi @Sridhar_Mahadevan — I’ve followed up via PM.

Please share the results of the solution / issue that was found.

I am seriously considering learning Net Core as MS are hinting at deprecating Dot Net at V 5

Am I right ? I am too old for new tricks … Woof

Mike it’s a good tool set, and they have moved multi platform through the Mono project.
Different name but still being developed for Windows, Linux and Mac. I imagine continued development for the long term.



I am long retired but still itch to play occasionally :sunglasses:

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I think there’s a huge advantage to using SSD drives with Roon. I know of no other app that hits the drives as hard as Roon. One of its more useless (IMHO) features is a visualization of the track volume levels. This requires going through each and every track and when you set up a large multi-hundred thousand track library, Roon is a torture test on any spinning hard drive. The RAID drives I used originally were Seagate 16 TB drives in a Raid 5 configuration. It ran continuously for days indexing my library, 24/7, and sounded like a coffee machine was percolating all the time. That’s one reason I stopped running Roon on my Dell workstation with the RAID drives inside. It’s way too noisy to do my work with Roon hammering away at the disks all the time. I’m much happier now with Roon running on a pair of 4TB SSDs connected to a dedicated NUC. It’s mostly quiet except the fan in the NUC blares once a day when it backs up to my Dropbox. I’ll have to eventually get one of these fanless PCs so even the fan noise is gone. Needless to say, I would never ever run Roon with spinning hard drives. Way too noisy in my experience unless you have really really quiet drives or it’s a NAS tucked away in your attic or in a basement somewhere.

For the Roon Core and database? Sure! For music storage? No way!

My Roon core is sitting right in frosty of me less than 2 feet away. It is a sonicTransporter i9 which uses an SSD as the boot drive that contains all Roon Core code and data files. There is also a spinner hard disk inside that holds all of my music files. There is no noise at all as it is fanless and the hard disk is quiet. Roon does not beat up the spinner unless it is indexing the database for the first time after that, it is only access lightly.


I wish I could agree, but this is simply not true in my experience with Roon. The iPhone app in particular has never been reliable in the last few years I have used it. It crashes regularly, sometimes more often than other times. It’s without question the most unreliable iPhone app on my iPhone XS Max. Fortunately, the iPad Roon app seems more stable, which is not clear to me why that’s the case. I’m simply reporting on my experience as a Roon user. Don’t get me wrong. I love Roon, use it every day, and it has certainly made a huge difference to my musical enjoyment.

Many years of working in the software industry has given me a certain phlegmatic disposition to software: as the old saying goes, if builders built buildings the way software engineers write code, the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization. If that sounds unkind to software engineers, don’t view it that way. I am in this profession, and I see first hand the issues in keeping software working.

I manage a high end data science lab in the one of the world’s largest software companies in the San Francisco Bay Area. My group has an amazing diversity of talent, all the way from pure math PhDs from Ivy League universities to very talented algorithm designers. We are required to design scalable algorithms that are used by the majority of the world’s Fortune 500 companies, and this requires scale and reliability on a truly humongous level (many trillions of transactions a day, many petabytes of data). Even with all the resources at our disposal (many hundreds of thousands of servers), it’s hard to keep things working reliably. Outages do occur and are expensive and difficult to fix. It’s a constant battle to keep things reliable. On the other hand, a well designed skyscraper can stay intact for a hundred years, with some periodic maintenance (e.g. Empire State Building). Software is simply not that reliable, sadly, as the underlying technology changes rapidly, and the components are also changing all the time.

I bought my first CD in 1985, and still have all the many thousands of CDs I have since purchased in these last 35+ years. Guess what? My first CD still plays back absolutely reliably, and the vast majority of my CDs still work without a hitch. Optical storage is just unmatched in reliability. Sadly, hard drives, no matter what their pedigree, are incredibly unreliable. I have lost countless hard drives over the years, and there’s a big junkyard of non-functional drives in my garage, which I throw out periodically. Anyone has a working hard drive from 35 years ago? I didn’t think so. :slight_smile:


Something is clearly wrong with something in your setup if your iphone roon app crashes that much. I use roon on my iphone almost every day (and have been using it for years) I can’t remember the last time I had a crash. Maybe it’s the XS for some reason as I’ve been on the iphone 11pro since it’s release over a year ago and just recently switched to the iphone 12 pro.

I have a Seagate ST 238R 30 MB RLL drive still running in my 8088 XT.

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I’ve had Roon on a crappy Mac mini 2012 with 4GB of memory while managing a 44k track library. I may have had a minor problem once in the last four years.

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