Hi
Added a hard drive to Nucleus one and when attempting to import from my computer to my albums it takes forever and keeps adding files, the attached is for one album on flac format, twelve files, as it addes imported it adds more to the pending. Any other way to get the files into the Hard disk at Nucleus?
Welcome, Alejandro!
Please post more detail here of your setup: operating system, Roon version and just how your computer and Nucleus and that second(?) hard drive are connected.
A Roon library can be very large (one of Roon’s many strengths) and could well take more time than perhaps you’re expecting. How many Albums does your Roon Library contain?
Hi @Alejandro_Diaz,
Thanks for reaching out to us about this issue. @Mark_Sealey asked some good questions to start with especially
Please also give this article a read if you haven’t already https://help.roonlabs.com/portal/en/kb/articles/nucleus-migration-guide
Hi Mark
Thank you first of all for responding
Roon version 2.0
Nucleus is attached to the sound system, I have just installed a hard drive inside nucleus (comes without one)
My computer is not connected to Nucleus, I am logging in my Roon account on the computer and attempt to drag the files from file explorer (just one album) in my computer to the roon app running on chrome. This seems to provide some kind of failure as the files pending to import keep growing.
I used to have roon running on Nass where I also had my music stored and roon located and run the files, I move to nucleus to run the app faster and now attempting to place the files on the roon server hard drive that I added to the roon server.
Alex
Hello, Alejandro; thanks for that extra detail 
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I confess to being somewhat confused, though.
Unless I’m misunderstanding you, I’m not sure how this can be.
Nucleus is a storage device designed and built specifically for Roon. In order to use it, your computer running the Roon software has to be connected to Nucleus; then it can ‘see’ and play music files from there.
Have you set your Roon environment up that way? This time, or previously?
And are you performing this drag operation (which is failing) in order to import your files into Roon?
If so, how have you planned for your Nucleus to be part of the system?
The typical/standard configuration with a computer (Windows or macOS) is to run the Roon software on the computer and store all your music files on the Nucleus; and tell Roon where to look for those files in something called a Watched Folder. It is to that Watched Folder that you drag and drop music files. Trying to do this one file at a time - assuming that the file is in one of the formats which Roon will recognize - may be a good troubleshooting procedure.
When you say that Roon is ‘running on chrome’, please fill this out for us.
If you can skip the adverts, this video might help…
I suspect we might be able to be of more help if you’d provide a little background, please.
Have you set up Roon before adding the Nucleus?
Or can we assume that you’re reaching out as a Roon novice?
In all cases, we’re here to help: what may seem overwhelming will quickly become clear if you get the building blocks, and the way they all work together, clear in your mind as we go along
Roon Nucleus server is running and connected to the preamp on my system and I have QoBuz set up and can stream and play music. I access roon app via the phone or Ipad or computer and via wifi stream music. So far so good. I so the video and set up Nucleus as the server but now is only streaming.
I added the hard disk to put my music collection into the nucleus, I understand the watch folder where Nucleus will access my computer hard drive via the network, but dont want that, want to place the files inside the nucleus for direct access.
Very very much as a roon novice I am reaching out
The method I am trying is this
How do I import files into Roon?
Method #1 Drag And Drop on to the Roon application on Mac/PC
You can always drag and drop music files into Roon on Mac and PC. Roon will copy these files to the storage locations you’ve configured on your server.
Hopefully this helps and you dont give up on me
Thanks
Alejandro,
But (how) is Nucleus (just to be clear, we use the term, ‘Nucleus’, as hardware which may or may not have a server installed on it) connected to your computer?
Good; that suggests that you probably already have those components in place. As a novice, well done for getting that far .
because you bought a Nucleus without hard drive. Clear. Good. That was the right thing to do - as you will know .
Strictly speaking - and because it’s important: it’s the other way around. Although there is two-way communication (between computer and Nucleus), it’s the computer which ‘goes to’ your Nucleus to ‘fetch’ music off/from the Nucleus’ in order to load and play that music.
This may be where the confusing is arising.
Yes, you place your music files on the hard drive of the Nucleus. Then Roon will do the rest.
Please answer these two questions, Alejandro, to help us help you:
- what do you mean by ‘direct access’? From your computer’s point of view, when you have set things up properly (as we are doing here, now - and thanks for adding that you are a novice), your Nucleus will be treated by your computer as ‘just another external hard drive’ - except that Roon has a special relationship with the Nucleus: it’s the dedicated location for your Watched Folder
- what do you see if you launch Roon and go to Settings (the gear wheel top left) > Storage?
Is this what you have been doing?
If so, let’s consider getting the files directly into the Watched Folder on your Nucleus.
Answers
I use the word nucleus as the nucleus one black box server mfg by Roon.
Nucleus is not connected to my computer, I never use my computer to access Nucleus always from the roon app on a tablet or phone. Roon nucleus is the roon server.
On storage I see
Folders…+add folders where I think we can set up the watch folder in my computer?
Then below
Nucleus one internal storage, watching for new files in real life, so the hard drive is there inside the nucleus but nothing is there.
My thinking right or wrong is that by placing the files on the nucleus server I don’t need my computer any longer, files are hosted there.
In other words can I avoid the nucleus server computer relationship after the files move to the nucleus hard drive?
Alex
Thanks, Alex!
Good. Yes. I wanted to distinguish between Nucleus the location for the Roon server on the one hand and Nucleus the location for all your music files on the other.
I for one don’t have enough experience of using Roon with non-desktop devices; so we should wait for someone who has to jump in. They will confirm whether you are able actually to run Roon on a portable device, like yours, or only to control Roon on a desktop from those. I suspect the latter.
In the meantime, I’m still a little confused when you said:
and
I suspect that there may be some confusion here about the kind of architecture (devices and connections) which Roon supported and expects.
Exactly! And in the case of someone who owns a Nucleus, that Watched Folder should be on that Nucleus - following the advice given in @daniel’s post above.
Yes; that’s what I would expect. But the reason that you can see no files is that you have yet to copy (drag) music files in one of the formats which Roon supports into your Roon Library on Nucleus. I can only advise on how to do this from a desktop device.
You do need a ‘client’ (which I have only experience of when it is a desktop device - running macOS or Windows) to access, fetch and play your music files.
I don’t believe so. You can certainly run/control Roon from a portable device like an iPhone. You can listen to files to which Roon has access using ARC. But I only have experience of the Roon ‘core’/‘client’ running on a fully-powered desktop machine.
In your case, we shall be able to talk you through the ways to set this up; I don’t think it will be too disappointing for you to adjust your thinking - unless you have some critical reason why you don’t want to include your computer in the process.
A Roon Nucleus is a device sold by Roon Labs to act as your Roon server. It is nothing more. A Roon Nucleus should be connected by ethernet to your network via switch or directly to router. A computer running the Roon control software should be connected to the same network, usually by WIFI but sometimes by ethernet.
To move music to the Nucleus, drag and drop from the current storage location to the installed hard drive inside the Nucleus.
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Your internal drive that you added to your Nucleus will be your watched folder and will look like this.
Use Windows File Explorer to drag and drop music files from your computer to your Nucleus internal drive.
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I think this is what I am missing to move the files to Nucleus seeing the Nucleus on my file explorer under my Network. I don’t see it. So if you can walk me through the process of adding the nucleus to the network via wifi. Then I can drag the files to the nucleus storage.
Thanks
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I see now, converted that the pc has to connect to the nucleus server, just how, can I hook up the laptop to the roon via a cable or has to be via the network.?
If the network how to discover it
Thanks
Alex,
So glad it’s getting clearer for you
As @Jim_F says (and his advice is always to be listened to), you can connect your Nucleus to your (a Windows desktop?) computer by wi-fi or Ethernet. As long as they are on the same network, you will be able to mount your Nucleus and drag music files into the Nucleus watched folder.
Just to be clear, there are (I think) three components in the system you are building (as well as the network, wired or wireless):
- your desktop computer which contains the Roon client; from there you access both streaming - in your case Qobuz - and your Roon Library. To play your music, if you like.
- your Nucleus which contains the Roon server and Roon Library; you don’t really need to do much to and with this except update the server software when new versions are released, to store your music files there, and to back up your Roon Library often… probably to your Windows desktop hard drive. At least. Maybe to other volumes as well
- your laptop, which you can optionally use also to ‘control’ your Roon client.
(Ideally) all three will be on the same (Ethernet or Wi-fi) network.
Please ask if any of this is not clear.
The server shouldn’t be on wifi. You should put the other computer on ethernet, so the server and computer are both wired.
I tend to suggest using an external usb hdd for the music to avoid all this. Keep in mind that you will need an external drive or a network share for the nucleus to use as a target location for its database backups. The backup can’t use any internal drive as a target location.
Thanks, that’s what I was going to do this evening, and will keep an external hard drive for back up as you suggest.
I believe after the transfer I can remove the computer since the data will be on the internal drive of the nucleus.
Will revert with results
Great! We’re looking forward to hearing the results.
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Alex,
Congrats on the progress made.
Unless I’m missing something, No: your desktop computer is where the Roon client must reside.
Strongly suggest reading @Rugby’s post on this because I still suggest (I hope I’m wrong) a hint of confusion in the part that all the components which you’re assembling play.
Good luck!
Your Nucleus Roon server should be connected to your network by ethernet. Your Roon clients can be WIFI or ethernet. Roon clients can be another computer running Roon or a phone or tablet running the Roon app from the app store for your device.
Thanks to all for your help
I finally simply connected an external drive holding the library to the Nucleus server then on the roon client (pc or tablet) I could see the music library as the watch folder, this allow the music to appear in the library. I will stay with this to clean out the library select better versions of the albums on Qobuz etc.
When I am done witn this I will then connect the laptop through the LAN to copy the updated library (will remove some and perhaps only keep Hi Res files on the server) to the internal drive on the nucleus.
So for now I am good to go
Next challenge conenct to Roon ARC which I have fail to do
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