What determines the response time on my iDevices ? The server HW ?, as long as you know for sure your home LAN is fast. Local files is not on same device as Roon Core if that matters. All network hard wired.
Every time I close the iPad, or switch to an other task, the app “loose” connection with the core. I suppose this is how it shall or is intend to work or ?
Even the iPeng app was faster if I rememberer correctly.
Can I set some sort of keep alive state or time ?
This is not a problem, though it would be nice to have at least same speed as connecting to a website.
Is this something Roon is working on ?
You seem to be asking two questions, but they are not really related. The lost connection issue on iOS is not a matter of network latency or bandwidth. Rather, per my understanding, the lost connection issue is less on Roon, more on iOS. That overly aggressive memory management just is how iOS works.
Also, you placed this thread in the Roon Software category, but the community has a separate Apple iOS category:
So what you are saying is by changing to a windows phone/tablet or an Android device, my Roon will become much faster ?
Why is there an iPad Air 2 requirement for the Roon app ?
Edit: Found answer to about that in another post. 32 to 64 bit.
Could the slow response time have somthing to do with HW requirements on the controller device ?
If I understand you correctly, the Roon core HW has nothing to do with this. Nor the network.
If you can explain better what is going on, and if there is a solution to achieve better response time, that would be nice.
You also seems to blame Apple, but in general all apps are more or less quite fast, so why would Roon be so slow ? It seems a bit strange to me that one has done such a design “mistake”
Also, there are apps, like NAVIGON, or softphone apps, like Bria, that can run in background and always be on. Yes they will use power, but they are for sure not slow or has bad response to the network.
Are you answering on behalf of Roon team ? Maybe you can be so kind to move this tread to where it belong ?
Does any other here experience the same as me with using iDevices ?
There is a setting to “keep screen awake” which should help.
Once connected Roon is if anything faster than iPeng for me but it doesn’t stay connected as well which I think (and I could be wrong) be connected to the .NET framework Roon is written in to allow interoperability with Windows, Android, Apple and Linux.
I think Microsoft have bought the .NET program that works on IOS so there is a good chance things may improve. You do get used to it pretty quickly though and Roon (IMHO) is just so much better than any alternative.
I wouldn’t worry too much about where you post a thread, there are legions of moderators to move them if necessary.
In my experience, WiFi quality is a very important factor. No extra hops/extenders and 80211.ac on both Router/AP and device make a huge difference. My iPhone consistently reconnects in <1 sec, from dead in the background to fully loaded and operational.
As I understand it it stops the iPad from going to sleep and so the app once it’s in the foreground will be more or less immediately responsive.
So the room interface screen stays active all the time.
If that is the intention, then there is a bug in that function. I hope someone from Roon can confirm.
Then it’s just to wait until fixed. I’m in no hurry as long as it’s on the roadmap.
I think there may be a misunderstanding of how the keep screen awake works to work. It stops the ipad going to sleep when Roon is in the foreground, so the screen is always on showing Roon and of course the connection to the core remains so Roon is always ready.
However once you put Roon into the background by using another app then the keep screen awake doesn’t do anything and Roon will disconnect from the core. See the post from Brian in this thread.
Thanks. Then the question is if Roon can add a setting for keep avlive in back ground ? Or maybe Apple does not allow such functionality ?
Also are there any plans to add some simple Roon functions like play, stop, next track to iOS widgets?
(That would violate the philosophy of uniform interface on all platforms).
@support Hi Can you guys read this small thread and take some time to answer what influence response time from an iOS device. As well any plans to add widgets ?
Also if you could or would or any plan to, add support similar as when using GPS app, that even if you switch to another app, that Roon will still be active (and use a lot of battery ) If that will solve this issue with slow response time, as I suppose it’s not a issue related to only a few.
(Just to be clear: I’m taking about the app startup time and be able to establish contact with server not the time it takes from press play to music flows).
Further I occasionally with the Roon app active on my iOS device, loose contact for a second or five. What is the possible reason / explanation behind this behavior.
Can even my Windows server with RAID spinning disks be an issue ?
My Roon installation is on a SonicTransporter i5, MicroRendu if it’s matters. All wired.
The new update to Roon 1.4 seems to have resolved this issue, at least for me.
Now when I change apps on my iPad/iPhone, and switch back to the Roon app, it is very fast and does not show the “Reconnecting” message. And of course the fact that an iOS device can now be a Roon endpoint makes Roon 1.4 a must-have upgrade for iOS users (but you need iOS 11 to run it).
Well my friends I just find out a solution for this.
It may not suit to everyone. It may not work for every situation. But I find it really convenient.
Roon iOS goes to sleep because nothing tells it to stay awake. What will tell iOS to stay awake? An app which is playing something.
So one has to play Roon on the particular device in order for the device to stay awake. You begin to guess?
When I play music in my Lumin device for example. And if I group my Lumin with my iPhone and/or my iPad and set volume in my iPhone/iPad to zero. My iPhone and/or my iPad will consider Roon as playing something and then Roon app will not go to sleep in the 2 iOS devices!
Not convenient because of battery drain maybe (but it is not as energy consuming as what I may thought). Not convenient because not every device can be grouped with any device in Roon. But if you find the best grouping devices with an iOS device (eg 2 RAAT devices). This will work!
And as a bonus you will always have the nice iOS playing now notification in the lock screen, hehe!!
I am playing via rasperry(usb)
Control via ipad
If i switch to another app on ipad and back again within some seconds - roon-app on ios is available immediately
If i switch to another ios-app for about 1 minute or longer and then back to roon-app (which is still started)
I get this screen for about 1-2 seconds
So there should be a timer-variable to let the roon app be alive for maybe 30 minutes and not 1 minute
I do not know the “be alive value” for an ios-app, but maybe, the value can be customized to a bigger/longer value - if such a value exists. (Maybe an ios-setting - i do not know)
This is also the same on Android devices and varies wildly depending on how the manufacturer has tweaked the battery management features and the app used. I think Danny mentioned it’s also down to memory. Some devices are more aggressive than others it seems. It’s all so they can boast about battery life.
However certain apps seem to maintain being alive and connected when they are used in background and keep alive if they are used on lock screen. It’s annoying that it’s not consistent behaviour. The Naim app I use does appears to be always connected and alive when brought back . So maybe it’s something Roon is doing to?
) If that will solve this issue with slow response time, as I suppose it’s not a issue related to only a few.