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Well, if there’s anything so 90’s, it must be humans adapting to software instead of the other way around.
I can’t help but wonder whether, if the OP was given exactly what he asked for, he would then complain that it was too expensive for the use he made of it.
As various people have said, if those are your key requirements then Roon is not the product you need. That’s not a problem, there are a number that will do exactly what you want on most platforms, many of them free or shareware.
The goal of software designers should be to meet users’ goals. Sure, you can have principles, but they should not become obstacles. I like my keyboard with arrow keys and my mouse with at least two buttons. If I could browse folders in Roon, I’d do that quite a lot. Currently, I have to check track location to make sure I’m listening exactly to what I want.
This is like going to a Wordpress forum and complaining that Excel is a horrible word processor. Just a bunch of confusion all around. Roon not for you. See you on a music forum or gear forum or somewhere else. I hope you get back to the music using whatever tool brings you happiness.
Same things con be very easy,
And if you think that we all have the same goals here, then I think I need to disabuse you of that notion…
When I understood how metadata works, my reaction was: Great! Now I don’t have to mess with those damn folders anymore. In fact, for playing music, when metadata is properly set up, all the music can be in one folder. I find for classical music in particular, it is always an issue as to what folder an album should be in; one based on title, composer(s), artist, orchestra/ensemble, conductor? If by title, how do I find something by Patricia Kopatchinskaja, etc. If by artist how do I find tracks where Fazil Say accompanies her? Metadata allows me to store the music files in any old folder and still find music by Kopatchinskaja and Say (such as her amazing performance of the Kreutzer). Or even more difficult to find by using folders, how would I find her recording of Dowland’s Seaven Teares? It is one track on her recording of Death and the Maiden and Dowland would never appear in a folder name for this album. And roon found all this using Search, which worked well for me even before the recent upgrade. The only reason I still have multiple folders at all is because my backup program works more efficiently that way. (For the record, I file albums by title as that is the only thing that is always the same for every track on a release.)
Obviously I do not.
Fair enough… the Mark Levinson is UPnP/DLNA only, but the Buchardt supports Airplay 2, so it does work with Roon. And both vendors claim that Roon support is coming.
And that’s my point: devices that are not Roon Ready have it on their roadmap and usually include Airplay or Chromecast (e.g. Home Theater AVRs), which means they work with Roon. That’s ubiquity.
I know that the Platin is seeking roon certification. The ML I see no indications of, but it is rocksolid on DLNA and I use one of several LMS bridges with roon. The Platin has a gapless Chromecast implementation.
Both work well with a variety of players which was my main consideration. For example, seamless integration with foobar and a windows explorer front-end for large box-set handling as it is clear roon has no interest in a solution.
I’m not exactly sure to be honest what advantages are gained by roon certification for these devices? I know I would get RAAT but they are both rock-solid so I assume its something else?
Unfortunately there is a syntax error in the command in that link.
The one in this link works:
click an the link - for me it works…
It’s ok. I have a solution now. Thanks.
Perhaps you meant all parts of roon are not for everyone? Isn’t that the OP’s point?
One of the weirdest things about online forums is how often people want to share products or practices that they do NOT need. What’s the purpose of doing this? I am sure that every one of us doesn’t need 99.999999% of what’s on this planet. It’s much more interesting and useful to talk about what we DO need, as it’s likely to be much more focused.
If you don’t want or need streaming integration, JRiver might be for you. It is foobar on steroids, without all the inconvenience of hunting down and managing plugins, and it can slice and dice your folder views just about anyway you want if that’s all you want and or need…
Isn’t it weirder how easily we all go off topic? It’s not a criticism I do it myself
There is a thread for what we do need. It’s the feature requests.
I think it’s perfectly valid to have here a discussion about simplicity in roon and things we don’t need. All software eventually accretes layers of functionality not necessarily serving much function or organised in an intutitive or easy to use way. Many of us coming from the mess that JRiver became for example were attracted to the simplicity and clean lines and interface of roon. I personally see a thread focussing on observations and ideas that might reinforce that design vision to be quite positive.
@tripleCrotchet, that’s clearly not the intent of the OP.
Looks like have different interpretations then.