Roon has been grinding my PC to a halt. It uses almost 2GB of RAM. I have 16 on my windows 10 machine but everything just starts to feel sluggish and eventually everything just starts to slow untill I have to shut it down.
My library has 2000 albums, 20.000 songs, so not that huge.
I have been deleting some albums from my local library, could that be the reason? Even then just freezing my computer completely…
Any tests, solutions? Or is 8GB RAM just not enough anymore for Roon?
Your library is small in the Roon scheme of things , 3 thoughts
Have you rebooted the windows 10 PC recently ?
Is there a Windows update lurking BUT not applied , I have found that slows things down
if you have been deleting albums have you done a Library Cleanup afterwards . This will shrink the database size and hence take up less RAM
I used to run Roon on i7 7700 /16 gb with no issues but that was a while ago. My library was significantly bigger . For a variety of reason I restarted the PC daily so a reboot was built in
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mjw
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Time to replace Windows 10 anyway, so maybe get a new PC (with a decent OS ).
But seriously, Roon should run fine on your PC, and 2 GB isn’t much memory (the database is loaded into memory), so something else is probably at play.
Its on my Santa List , I am even having drive problems where the old one is telling me its time t retire
After however many years (30 ?) since 3.1 and every version up to10 I guess I’ll stick with what I know and go Win 11
Personally I have never experienced issues with Windows, and all my software is Widows so …
mjw
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The invasive advertising and AI integrated into Windows 11 is a show stopper for me. That said, I only run Windows 10 on a VM (KVM using GPU passthrough) for some games, and the latest Steam release has pretty much removed the need for Windows.
Currently, around 40% of Windows users are still on Windows 10. Previously, when the current version reached EOL, it was a few percentage points. Clearly, a lot of people don’t want, or can’t take, the upgrade.
I’ve turned off most of the advertising using the Privacy & Security settings. Of course, Microsoft have still polluted some of their apps (e.g. the Weather app) with ads, and I suspect that trend will continue.
The reason I’m still on 10 was the hardware requirements for updating , I am not buying hardware to suit the software. That said the last windows I bought was 8 I think maybe 7 it’s been cloned OS drives and free updates
That’s a laziness thing rather than reinstall hordes of apps
I was considering a new PC anyway.
I always install ad blocker that helps
mjw
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I suspect this is the main reason many people aren’t upgrading i.e., they can’t. Ditching a three year old PC or laptop because it doesn’t have TPM makes little sense.
Whilst I don’t think this will dramatically alter market share, some people are clearly looking for an alternative.
James_I
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Do you have a lot of unidentified albums? Roon does album identification to run its various features and having unidentified albums can cause it to use a lot of system resources.
Like you, I ran Roon Server as a background process on a Windows 10 PC. It worked okay, but the Roon experience has been so much nicer since I moved Roon Server onto a dedicated computer running Roon OS. If you don’t mind going the “MOCK” route (My Own Core Kit), you can do this rather inexpensively (<$200).
The price for my favorite little solution has gone up by $40, but it still offers good value with performance about 80% of my 11th Gen Intel Core i7 NUC:
I think this little computer performs so well because of the 12 GB of DDR5 memory. As long as you’re not trying to apply 66k tap convolution filters to DSD256 tracks without converting them to PCM first, it has plenty of power. The microSDXC slot supports cards up to 2 TB, so you can easily find a card that will store your 2,000 albums. If you prefer, there are three USB 3.2 ports to which you can connect external USB drives.
To install Roon OS, you’ll just follow the ROCK instructions to flash the “official ROCK installer” to a USB Thumb drive. Boot from that drive and follow the on-screen instructions. You will be up and running in less than ten minutes. From there, just restore your last Roon database backup, update storage locations as needed, and enjoy.
I agree with Mike’s points. I no longer use my PC has the Roon machine but I had a similar issue with Rock not too long ago. After some change I’ve done, Roon had to do a lot of track analysis and it happened to be stuck on a particular one. I happened to notice because the NUC was particularly hot. Took a few restarts for it go over whatever it was tripping on but it finally settled.
As to 16GB, depends a lot on what you are also running on that PC. Should be plenty for Roon and enough for a non-gaming windows machine. Mine had 24gb and I’ve recently upgraded to 32Gb because of some unrelated matter. I can’t tell a difference so I would say try to get an 8gb memory stick anyway. They are dirt cheap nowadays and it would give you plenty of margin when things get stuck.
I imagine speed of access to your drive can be an issue too, as it prolongs the time on a process. I used to have a combination of SSD for OS and other programs and a second HDD for diles. Going full SSD has unchained the PC a lot as that was a clear bottleneck.
FWIW - I had an extra windows 10 PC that I ended up using as a Roon server (Tidal and about 1.5 TB stored). Nothing else running on the PC. Worked great for years. I accidentally upgraded to Windows 11 and then had to reboot every few days due to memory being slowly gobbled up. I did some research and Roon and Windows 11 dont like each other (at least as of 6 months ago). I picked up a Roon Nucleus One, installed a 2.0 TB Samsung SSD 870, and couldnt be happier.
Thanks for all the replies and possible solutions/causes.
After some digging I found the culprit. It was not Roon by itself, but Avast, my anti virus program, that was stuck in a loop. This caused Roon (and Firefox) to go haywire. The anti virus used a ton of resources but these showed up under other processes as they kept checking online and where blocked.
Removed anti virus and reinstalled it. Back to normal.